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RoperAB
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Ohhh, don't underestimate them.
I don't know if you know it or not, but Pat Parelli started out riding broncs and he was good at it. Same with Curt Pate. Buck Brannaman worked for a big ranch and he rode plenty of tough horses.
Just cuz they want to do it this way, doesn't mean they couldn't do it
another way.
It is my opinion that they want to keep people interested in horses and
they want to keep it safe. This way is much safer for more people.
I have an opinion that not everyone that owns horses wants to RIDE them. Some just want to have them, pet them, care for them. Pat Parellli gives those people something to do with their horses. They can go
just as far as they wish. JMHO |
Buck Brannaman rodeoed and cowboyed as well. Buck can ride.
I like the way he starts colts. I have a long discontinued 5 Masters tape of his. I really like the way he starts colts in this tape. I dont know how he does it in his other tapes? But im thinking the way he does it in that 5 Masters tape would be way beyond a beginner.
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Faster horses
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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We personally know Curt Pate and Buck Brannaman. It is kind of "we knew them when"... 
We were looking at horses at Kyd Cattle Company out of Three Forks, Mt. a loooooooong time back. Buck was one of the hands. He just broke horses until they brought Ray Hunt in. That's when Buck got his start in how he trains horses now. He was a good student. I can't remember who the ranch manager was that brought in Ray. It may have been Larry Grantier, but again, I'm not sure.
Our horseman friend, who has attended some of Buck's clinics, says Buck means so much to the horses that one day he was working a particular tough stallion. When he finished, he put the stallion in an adjoining pen and started to work with another student at the clinic. After a bit, the stud left where he was standing and was messing around. All Buck did was LOOK at the stud and he went back and stood right where Buck put him. And he stayed there. Buck never left the student in the arena that he was working with.
Oh, yea, I think he is among the very best. His attitude with people has caused him some problems at times. I haven't heard how he is lately. Ray Hunt went through that as well. It would be hard telling the same things to different faces over and over. Same questions just a different place.
Have you read Buck's book, "The Faraway Horses"? It is an awesome read. One of my very favorites. A classic. He talks of his terrible childhood, but suffering as he did is what helped him have his special understanding with horses. IMO
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PPRM
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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A good friend of Curt's is Bob Blackwell. We did a climic in Yakima we did get handed a rotten 4 or 5 year old. We shoulda known it was a setup. every horse trader in the country showed up. Find out later that onme of the better locals (who is prettyy good) had gotten hurt by this horse.....Nobody else wanted him...The traders were there to see a wreck...
It was a long deal, but Bob, pretty well got the horse to free up and accept Bob wasn't going to put up with any foolisheness and wasn't there to hurt him...Bob was able to climb on the horse, but at that point they were both done and anything more woulda meant going backwards...Bob and Curt are pretty similar, but different in looks, LOL....
Bob gave the horse a chance to not get canned.....He also earned the respect of all of those guys. Bob sells no gimmics, magic sticks or the like....If you pay atterntion, he will teach anyone a ton.....
There are a wide variety of these clinicians.....My problem is it seems to encourage beginners that need that need to enjoy a broke horse to try starting colts...
PPRM
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RoperAB
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Yes FH I have read his book. Its a good read. Yes a lot of people find Buck a little salty. I dont.
Teaching people or putting up with students can be very annoying.
He has another book out called if I remember right "Believe". Have you read it?
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Faster horses
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PPRM, you nailed it. Yep, too many think they can start their own colts.
I gotta hand it to many of the clinicians, they talk alot about safety.
I heard Pat Parelli really get after a novice lady that kept looking down at her horses mane all the time. He really was stressing to her that was a dangerous thing to do. She needed to be more aware of where she was. Kinda hurt the ladies feelings, I think, but the rest of the folks really understood where he was coming from.
Roper AB, I have read "Believe." I didn't care for it. Maybe I wasn't ready for it mentally, but it just didn't draw me in like "The Faraway Horses" did.
"Believe" seemed to me to be a book advertising Buck Brannnaman.
It is stories from people who Buck helped their horses, only it's done a
little too braggy, if you know what I mean. At least that was my take on it. Seems like I got tired of it, before I finished it. Not so, with "The Faraway Horses." I couldn't put it down.
I also have Pat Parelli's "Raise your hand if you love horses." It's good.
He had his own trials and tribulations. He wasn't born into a horse family.
He didn't suffer like Buck did, he had good parents, they just weren't horse people. So despite everything, Pat Parelli is a self-made horseman.
He gives certain individuals credit for helping him throughout his life. Makes for good reading.
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