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RoperAB Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Common Myths about Horse Slaughter
Myth: There has been an increase in the number of abandoned and unwanted horses in the United States, and a slaughter ban will lead to an increase in horse abuse and starvation or neglect cases.
Fact: There is no evidence to support these claims. According to the USDA, at least 5,000 horses have been imported into one of the three foreign-owned slaughter plants in the United States for slaughter since August 2004. If there were "too many" horses in the United States, then there would be no reason to import horses for slaughter. Furthermore, a ban on horse slaughter will not lead to an increase in horse abuse and neglect. In California, where horse slaughter was banned in 1998, there has been no corresponding rise in cruelty and neglect cases. In fact, horse theft has dropped by 34% since enactment of the ban. Allowing one's horse to starve is not an option—state anti-cruelty laws prohibit such neglect.
Myth: Transport guidelines protect horses shipped to slaughter from harm.
Fact: The 2002 guidelines allow horses to be shipped for more than 24 hours without food, water or rest, with broken limbs, with eyes missing, even heavily pregnant. Industry pushed to delay the prohibition on use of double-decker trucks until December 7, 2006. The regulations only cover the final journey to the slaughterhouse. If horses are loaded and unloaded at various places as part of their route to slaughter, only the final leg of the trip is covered. Enforcement of these guidelines will only occur once the truck reaches the slaughter plant, so these guidelines will have little preventative effect. These guidelines are wholly inadequate and allow extreme suffering in transport to continue.
Myth: There is no need for a ban because slaughter is humane euthanasia.
Fact: Horse slaughter is a far cry from humane euthanasia. "Euthanasia" means a gentle, painless death provided in order to prevent suffering. Horse slaughter is a death fraught with terror, pain, and suffering. Horses are shipped for more than 24 hours at a time in crowded double-decker cattle trucks without food, water, or rest. Pregnant mares, foals, injured horses, and even blind horses must endure the journey. Once they arrive, their suffering intensifies—undercover footage obtained by The Humane Society of the United States demonstrates that fully conscious horses are shackled and hoisted by the rear leg and have their throats slit. Because horses are skittish by nature, it is particularly difficult to align them correctly and ensure the captive bolt stun gun renders them unconscious. Most horse owners already use humane euthanasia for their older or ill horses.
Myth: If horses can no longer be slaughtered, their welfare is at risk due to the lack of adequate equine rescue facilities and uniform standards for them.
Fact: Standards of care have already been developed and embraced by the hundreds of equine rescue and retirement facilities that exist throughout the country that routinely rescue horses from slaughter. All must comply with state and local animal welfare statutes. In an effort to end the slaughter of racehorses, the New York Racing Association has partnered with other groups to launch the "Ferdinand Fee" to raise funds for the care of retired racehorses, and to honor Ferdinand, a former Kentucky Derby winner who went to slaughter. The organizations leading the charge in favor of a slaughter ban are the very organizations that are actively working to provide sanctuaries and solutions for any horses that would otherwise go to slaughter.
Myth: If a slaughter ban is passed, the federal government will face the financial burden of care for horses no longer going to slaughter.
Fact: This assertion rests on the false premise that all horses currently going to slaughter would become the financial responsibility of the federal government. Horse owners, not the government, will remain responsible for the care of their horses. Owners who no longer wish to keep their horses and who cannot sell or place their horses in a new home will have the option of humane euthanasia. The average cost for veterinarian-administered euthanasia and carcass disposal—approximately $225, the cost of one month's care—is simply a part of responsible horse ownership.
Myth: Ending horse slaughter will cause environmental harm.
Fact: Hundreds of thousands of horses are safely disposed of annually by means other than slaughter, and the infrastructure can absorb an increase in numbers. Conversely, the operation of the horse slaughterhouses has a very real negative environmental impact, with two out of the three in violation of current environmental law related to the disposal of blood and other waste materials. Mayor Paula Beacon of Kaufman, Texas—the home of one of the three horse slaughter plants in the United States—desperately states "Dallas-Crown is operating in violation of a multitude of local laws pertaining to waste management, air quality and other environmental concerns... Residents are also fed up with the situation. Long-established neighbors living adjacent to the plant cannot open their windows or run air conditioners without enduring the most horrific stench."
Myth: A prohibition on horse slaughter creates a negative precedent for beef, pork, and poultry producers by legitimizing efforts to end consumption of food derived from any animal.
Fact: Americans don't eat horses, and unlike other livestock, we don't breed them for human consumption. Additionally, horses are different from cattle (and other animals specifically bred, sold, and transported for human consumption) due to their instinctive flight response in stressful conditions, making it difficult to accurately stun them prior to slaughter. Undercover footage has demonstrated that many horses are dismembered while fully conscious, underscoring the need to ban this utterly inhumane process. The American public overwhelming supports a ban on horse slaughter—horses have a special place in our heritage and they are beloved companions to millions today.
Myth: Consuming horsemeat does not put the public's health at risk.
Fact: Horsemeat is potentially dangerous to humans when eaten because horses are not raised for this purpose. Recent lab work revealed that horsemeat from one of the Texas plants contains several substances that are not intended for human consumption. Our horses are regularly treated with worming medications, drugs, and other injections unintended for human consumption.
Myth: There has been no formal public discussion on this issue.
Fact: For years, legislation that would prohibit horse slaughter has been under consideration in the Senate. The U.S. House of Representatives witnessed thoughtful and substantial public floor debate on this identical amendment which led to its passage by a landslide bipartisan vote. Further, there has been extensive media coverage on this issue by newspapers and television networks nationwide including CNN, The L.A. Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, and many others. Action on this issue is past due.
Myth: Zoos will be prevented from feeding their big cats an adequate diet.
Fact: Zoos will be able to continue to feed horse meat to their big cats, as the bill will only stop the domestic slaughter of horses for human consumption. However, there is a growing trend to feed a beef-based diet to captive big cats. Several USDA-licensed facilities that keep big cats like lions and tigers have switched to such diets because it is a healthier alternative for these species. Horses are treated with many drugs that are prohibited for use in animals raised for food.
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/equine_protection/horse_slaughter_common_myths.html
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Soapweed Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 12095 Location: northern Nebraska Sandhills
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Common Myths about Horse Slaughter
Myth: There has been an increase in the number of abandoned and unwanted horses in the United States, and a slaughter ban will lead to an increase in horse abuse and starvation or neglect cases.
Fact: There is no evidence to support these claims. According to the USDA, at least 5,000 horses have been imported into one of the three foreign-owned slaughter plants in the United States for slaughter since August 2004. If there were "too many" horses in the United States, then there would be no reason to import horses for slaughter. Furthermore, a ban on horse slaughter will not lead to an increase in horse abuse and neglect. In California, where horse slaughter was banned in 1998, there has been no corresponding rise in cruelty and neglect cases. In fact, horse theft has dropped by 34% since enactment of the ban. Allowing one's horse to starve is not an option—state anti-cruelty laws prohibit such neglect.
Myth: Transport guidelines protect horses shipped to slaughter from harm.
Fact: The 2002 guidelines allow horses to be shipped for more than 24 hours without food, water or rest, with broken limbs, with eyes missing, even heavily pregnant. Industry pushed to delay the prohibition on use of double-decker trucks until December 7, 2006. The regulations only cover the final journey to the slaughterhouse. If horses are loaded and unloaded at various places as part of their route to slaughter, only the final leg of the trip is covered. Enforcement of these guidelines will only occur once the truck reaches the slaughter plant, so these guidelines will have little preventative effect. These guidelines are wholly inadequate and allow extreme suffering in transport to continue.
Myth: There is no need for a ban because slaughter is humane euthanasia.
Fact: Horse slaughter is a far cry from humane euthanasia. "Euthanasia" means a gentle, painless death provided in order to prevent suffering. Horse slaughter is a death fraught with terror, pain, and suffering. Horses are shipped for more than 24 hours at a time in crowded double-decker cattle trucks without food, water, or rest. Pregnant mares, foals, injured horses, and even blind horses must endure the journey. Once they arrive, their suffering intensifies—undercover footage obtained by The Humane Society of the United States demonstrates that fully conscious horses are shackled and hoisted by the rear leg and have their throats slit. Because horses are skittish by nature, it is particularly difficult to align them correctly and ensure the captive bolt stun gun renders them unconscious. Most horse owners already use humane euthanasia for their older or ill horses.
Myth: If horses can no longer be slaughtered, their welfare is at risk due to the lack of adequate equine rescue facilities and uniform standards for them.
Fact: Standards of care have already been developed and embraced by the hundreds of equine rescue and retirement facilities that exist throughout the country that routinely rescue horses from slaughter. All must comply with state and local animal welfare statutes. In an effort to end the slaughter of racehorses, the New York Racing Association has partnered with other groups to launch the "Ferdinand Fee" to raise funds for the care of retired racehorses, and to honor Ferdinand, a former Kentucky Derby winner who went to slaughter. The organizations leading the charge in favor of a slaughter ban are the very organizations that are actively working to provide sanctuaries and solutions for any horses that would otherwise go to slaughter.
Myth: If a slaughter ban is passed, the federal government will face the financial burden of care for horses no longer going to slaughter.
Fact: This assertion rests on the false premise that all horses currently going to slaughter would become the financial responsibility of the federal government. Horse owners, not the government, will remain responsible for the care of their horses. Owners who no longer wish to keep their horses and who cannot sell or place their horses in a new home will have the option of humane euthanasia. The average cost for veterinarian-administered euthanasia and carcass disposal—approximately $225, the cost of one month's care—is simply a part of responsible horse ownership.
Myth: Ending horse slaughter will cause environmental harm.
Fact: Hundreds of thousands of horses are safely disposed of annually by means other than slaughter, and the infrastructure can absorb an increase in numbers. Conversely, the operation of the horse slaughterhouses has a very real negative environmental impact, with two out of the three in violation of current environmental law related to the disposal of blood and other waste materials. Mayor Paula Beacon of Kaufman, Texas—the home of one of the three horse slaughter plants in the United States—desperately states "Dallas-Crown is operating in violation of a multitude of local laws pertaining to waste management, air quality and other environmental concerns... Residents are also fed up with the situation. Long-established neighbors living adjacent to the plant cannot open their windows or run air conditioners without enduring the most horrific stench."
Myth: A prohibition on horse slaughter creates a negative precedent for beef, pork, and poultry producers by legitimizing efforts to end consumption of food derived from any animal.
Fact: Americans don't eat horses, and unlike other livestock, we don't breed them for human consumption. Additionally, horses are different from cattle (and other animals specifically bred, sold, and transported for human consumption) due to their instinctive flight response in stressful conditions, making it difficult to accurately stun them prior to slaughter. Undercover footage has demonstrated that many horses are dismembered while fully conscious, underscoring the need to ban this utterly inhumane process. The American public overwhelming supports a ban on horse slaughter—horses have a special place in our heritage and they are beloved companions to millions today.
Myth: Consuming horsemeat does not put the public's health at risk.
Fact: Horsemeat is potentially dangerous to humans when eaten because horses are not raised for this purpose. Recent lab work revealed that horsemeat from one of the Texas plants contains several substances that are not intended for human consumption. Our horses are regularly treated with worming medications, drugs, and other injections unintended for human consumption.
Myth: There has been no formal public discussion on this issue.
Fact: For years, legislation that would prohibit horse slaughter has been under consideration in the Senate. The U.S. House of Representatives witnessed thoughtful and substantial public floor debate on this identical amendment which led to its passage by a landslide bipartisan vote. Further, there has been extensive media coverage on this issue by newspapers and television networks nationwide including CNN, The L.A. Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, and many others. Action on this issue is past due.
Myth: Zoos will be prevented from feeding their big cats an adequate diet.
Fact: Zoos will be able to continue to feed horse meat to their big cats, as the bill will only stop the domestic slaughter of horses for human consumption. However, there is a growing trend to feed a beef-based diet to captive big cats. Several USDA-licensed facilities that keep big cats like lions and tigers have switched to such diets because it is a healthier alternative for these species. Horses are treated with many drugs that are prohibited for use in animals raised for food.
http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affecting_our_pets/equine_protection/horse_slaughter_common_myths.html |
If the truth were known, RoperAB, the organization that you are quoting as FOR you arguements probably deep down, is dead set AGAINST people like you and me even owning or riding horses. After all, working and riding horses has got to be inhumane and insensitive to the horses' real desires. Yes indeed, politics makes strange bedfellows. Thanks for aiding and abetting the enemy. PETA would probably pay you big wages to be one of their spokesmen.
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RoperAB Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| The way I see it im standing up for half decent humane treatment of Horses and fighting against France.
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Soapweed Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 12095 Location: northern Nebraska Sandhills
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The way I see it im standing up for half decent humane treatment of Horses and fighting against France. |
You are talking out of two sides of your mouth. If horsemeat is as unhealthy as you, the humane society, and the PETA people say it is, you are only helping France if you don't allow them to eat our horse meat. I say, help ourselves instead. We need to sell the French all the horse meat they can eat. It is about the only money and help we can ever get out of that bunch.
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Texan Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2925 Location: East Texas
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The way I see it im standing up for half decent humane treatment of Horses and fighting against France. |
You really need to drop the inhumane argument. There are no real differences in treatment of horses going to slaughter and cattle going to slaughter. The only difference is the species.
Your inhumane argument could easily be used against us all by the next bleeding heart liberal bunch that wants to stop the slaughter of cattle. Because the process is basically the same.
If you want to speak with authority on Canadian horse slaughter being inhumane, be my guest. But knock it off about the horse packing industry in the United States, because you're misinformed.
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Denny Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 4411 Location: Mn usa
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| The way I see it im standing up for half decent humane treatment of Horses and fighting against France. |
The way I see it your a crackpot.
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CattleRMe Member

Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 886 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| RoperAB wrote: |
| The way I see it im standing up for half decent humane treatment of Horses and fighting against France. |
You really need to drop the inhumane argument. There are no real differences in treatment of horses going to slaughter and cattle going to slaughter. The only difference is the species.
Your inhumane argument could easily be used against us all by the next bleeding heart liberal bunch that wants to stop the slaughter of cattle. Because the process is basically the same.
If you want to speak with authority on Canadian horse slaughter being inhumane, be my guest. But knock it off about the horse packing industry in the United States, because you're misinformed. |
Very valid points.
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RoperAB Rancher

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RoperAB Rancher

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IL Rancher Rancher

Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 3023 Location: Northwest Illinois
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Anybody wondering if they ever do ban horse slaughter i the US how many plants will open across the border in Mexico and how many trucks will be heading south each day? Just a thought that crossed my mind.. Especially horses out of Texas, I know one of the plants in Texas also owns a plant in Mexico.
Oh, and two of the three plants in the US are owned by Belgian companies. Might have french connections but they are Brussels based. Got a little bored today, kids are away, aper work is maddening.. Tought I would google a bit.
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Saddletramp Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have worked for more than a few ranches in the high plains region. Every one I worked for used horses. Both riding and draft animals. People who are in the ranch busines seriously use their horses as tools of the trade. These are people who ranch as a living, not as a hobby, not as a pasttime, and not as a second income. Most of them treat their horses very well. They have to. They are neccesary for our lively hood.
I have worked for acouple of individuals that didn't believe in the horse slaughter. Here's a little story about one man and his beloved horses.
He ran quite a horse operation and he had two old brood mares that had long ago fouled their last colt. But he kept them around the house yard. They were always in the way of anything you did but they were his special pets. He loved his two old mares. Both horses were so thin and poor it just made you mad to see them. But he loved them anyway. I'd ask him if he wanted me to get them in and grain them as winter came on but he wanted them left alone in their retired years.
I asked him several times what his plans were for them and he just wanted them to live out their lives being happy. He just couldn't bear the thought of them being slaughtered.
Well, sure enough he came down to my house one cold nasty morning and was all weepy eyed cause one of the poor old mares couldn't get up and would I please put her out of her misery. He didn't seem to notice her misery the night before. But then again he felt good about himself not sending them to the terrible fate of the slaughter plant.
Well, I took care of his horse for him and two weeks later I had to take care of the other one for the little pansey. But he could say with pride he didn't send them to the slaughter plant.
Banning horse packing plants will just cause more of this kind of stories to happen. Alot of people will not have the funds or the facilties to handle old or crippled horses after their usefulness is over. I see alot of backyard horses now that belong to people who can't take care of them proper. Every town and city is surrounded by bare dirt lots with two horses and a pony. Unsound horses are doctored up and ran thru local auction barns all the time now because people are people and they want theit investment back.
Also without packing plants, the problem of the wild horse issue will never be addressed. But here again the bleeding heart, weepy eyed public can't bear the reality of dealing with the ever growing problem. But most don't have to because they aren't trying to make their living raising cattle amongest the so called mustangs, or praire dogs or rattlesnakes or wolves or mountain lions, grizzly bears etc. etc. etc....
If you want to give horses their dignity vote to keep our slaughter plants open and start treating horses as they have been for 5000 years. As working animals in the livestock industry and the recreation industry. Not as pampered lap dogs that are left to be crippled, old and sick because some bleeding heart doesn't have the sand to pull the plug on a loyale companion.
'nuff said'
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Faster horses Rancher

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Excellent post, Saddletramp. I commend you on it!
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