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Frisco
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Bellykicking Reply with quote

Yeah okay, here goes. I've been so mad for days about this, I thought I'd give myself a little time to cool off before I went after opinions, but its not working.

A while back I witnessed my neighbor bellykicking his kids' little shetland pony.

His 10 year old boy and a friend, for days, have been jumping on the little guy and then kicking him until he bucks around the little pen they have him in. Mind you this was the only riding this pony was/is getting. You can guess how hard this little guy bucks, a little hopping is about all it amounts to. Anyway, the 8 year old girl jumped on him to show off for her little group of friends and the pony started jumping around like he thought he was supposed to. Another daughter ran to the shed to tell the dad and about 15 minutes later he comes out and starts to bellykick the pony good and proper. Mad

Since I couldn't understand why belly kicking was good punishment let alone abusing an animal for what he thought was the right response, let alone applying "discipline" so long after the event occurred, I asked what the hell he thought he was doing.

I was told I obviously didn't know anything about horses especially training them. It's true I don't train or break horses from the ground up, but I have been riding and using horses since I was 5 and I'm pretty sure bellykicking is NOT necessary EVER!!

He told me that his sister in law trains barrel horses and that you can't get anywhere with a green horse until you've left it in a corral for 48 hours without food or water, and then ride it at least 40 miles. Bellykick it every time it acts up. Acting up includes whinnying at other horses when its tied to a horse trailer at a rodeo or some such occasion.

I said "Bulls*!%t!"

What say you?


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katrina
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I said "Bulls*!%t!"


You are correct.....It's abuse..... Mad


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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say your neighbor shouldn't own horses....or any other kinda animal. Let alone havin let his kids teach this lil pony this response in the first place.
Ya aint gonna get anywhere with a horse if it's skeered of what your gonna do to it. I say that, meaning cruel treatment. There are times somethin a horse needs to learn may frighten it, but if you have patience and trust, that horse will give you it's all most times, and learn to trust the things you are tryin to get it to do, aren't gonna hurt him.
Best thing you could probably do if you really wanna prevent this from happening, is video him doin it. Take that to the SPCA they'll take care of it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one to call the SPCA ever time anything happens, but in a case where an animal is obviously bein abused, I am all for it.


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Mrs.Greg
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

katrina wrote:
Quote:
I said "Bulls*!%t!"


You are correct.....It's abuse..... Mad
For Sure Mad


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of old timers I know would occasionally do this to get a horses attention......I have found better ways,

PPRM


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That fool needs his belly kicked. I have a cousin who fancies himself a ' horse trainer' and he does the same damn thing.

He kicks, whacks and starves the horses. I haven't spoken to him in YEARS cause last time I did....it was said I went from saying words that were understandable to just out and out screaching!!!

I don't remember as I forget what I say when I flip out.

But the sad thing is that there are more of " these" types of guys about and working than you know!!!


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Faster horses
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses are nothing more than "VICTIMS" of who owns them and that
shetland is definitely a victim.

You get an "Atta boy" and a pat on the back from me for saying
something to the guy. I always do, because I feel if I don't say something
that is the same as saying "I agree." Those animals can't speak for
themselves and I made a pact with myself years ago to always speak for them.

It's gotten interesting more than once. Maybe women get away with
saying things more than men do, I don't know. I've turned in lots
of people. Sometimes it takes a lot of diligence to get something done.
But I just keep at it until I am satisfied.

Turn them in. Besides what is happening to the pony, think how he
is teaching his kids to treat animals.

I turned a guy in here for beating a shetland and he was in the County
owned indoor arena. I had to go to the County Commissioners, but
I got it done. If there is a will, there is a way.

Again, good for you for not just letting it go.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You all are confirming what my gut has been telling me. I'm going to keep the video camera handy for the next time. I can't figure out what he thinks he's teaching his kids.
You can bet I won't turn a blind eye to this, either, FH. It is BS.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: bellykicking Reply with quote

That dumbass doen't know anything about horses. Mad Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frisco we have a family of those kind of people around here. I had never seen them ride but they were tellin me how stupid I was for the way I work with horses. Then I saw them ride, thats what they called it anyway. How those kind of people don't get killed is beyond me and a damn crime that they don't. Lock a horse off of feed until it gets the staggers and then get on. What have they proved. Anyone can do that. A true horseman doesn't need such cowardish methods. TURN THEM IN


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kolanuraven
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes ya wonder how he treats his kids and family?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad Mad Mad I don't have words----keep the camera handy--


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