Open Range (Bull)

[Oldtimer]

Have any of you angus folks used the Sinclair bull Open Range--
AAA # 14357467?

I was thinking of using him on a few purebred heifers and liked his pedigree, but was wondering if anyone had used him and had any plus's or minus's.....Only comments I have heard came from a couple that was at the Denver Stock Show a year ago and said he was a nice looking 5 frame bull.... ABS's picture doesn't impress me too much...

http://abs-bs.absglobal.com/beef/angus.asp?CodTouro=29AN1639

In looking at the pedigree- I had to wonder if the Rito 616 breeding isn't thrown in to quiet down the double Ext breeding that lies in the background on the other side

[efb]

I am not at all familiar with him, but I did look at the ABS site you put up.
The things I noticed about him was that all his accuracy numbers are below .7. Also according to their bar graph his body length, rear legs and stature are all negative. I used Boyds New Day 8005 pretty heavy on both heifers and mature cows this year. So far I like the calves I've gotten.

[alabama]

I also like my Boyds New Day 8005 calves a lot. His price has jumped from $18 last year to $35 this year though. 6I6 has also given me some nice calves that are deep and thick but without much frame. I don't know anything about that Open Range bull but if he is like his sire he will be a good chouse if you plan to retain ownership to the rail.
I used Baldrige Nabraska on heifers last year and although I got small calves I won't use him again.

[kolanuraven]

My EXT bred cattle are the calmest and best.

The EXT ' legend' is just that pure legend that is unfair.

If you look hard enough at any well known bull you'll find some crazies from his loins.

If it were me and I liked the bull I'd not pay any attention to the EXT legend but then if your ' gut' tells you he won't work for you, then there must be a reason your ' gut' is talking to you.

[Angus Cattle Shower]

[kolanuraven]

Another excellent point ACS!!!!

[Oldtimer]

It doesn't appear as tho there are too many that have used this bull- which may account for the low accuracy on his EPD's....

I'm looking for a heifer bull that will produce good very moderate framed momma cows-- and thought with this bulls genetics he might work...My understanding is that the Sinclair Cattle Company is made up of all the old N-Bar ranch genetics- which were definitely known for their momma cows- and I was pleased with the old N Bar bred bulls I used before...

I'm a little limited on choices as this is another swap/trade off deal I'm involved in where the fella will take the heifers, synchronize them with his, and AI them for me (no work for me )- but since he is an old ABS school fella, only uses ABS bulls.... And ABS has little to offer in Ohlde, Shoshone, Leonard, or Deboos -- smaller framed good maternal type breeding to choose from...

I thought from what I've heard and what I see in his pedigree that Open Range might be a good frame moderating maternal bull....Oh well--I've still got some time to do some searching and thinking...

[Angus Cattle Shower]

TY kolan!!!!

[Faster horses]

OT, try OCC Magnitude. He's an ABS bull and will do what you are
looking for.

We used him, perhaps you remember some of the pictures
I posted here in August or so. The ABS rep here came
at shipping time and looked at the calves. He was impressed.
More meat, thickness and hind quarter than most heifer bulls
show.

I think you would really be happy. We kept all the heifers as
replacements although we got a lot more bull calves than heifers.

He did say there were a couple in the bunch that would have been
defiinite bull prospects.

And they are GENTLE. REAL GENTLE.

Hope I helped!!!!!!!!!

[Manitoba_Rancher]

When I first seen "Open Range" I thought hey thats our Angus herd name...... but we are just getting nice into the purebred biz.

[Angus Cattle Shower]

Isn't that your herd name on www.showcattle.com too?

[Badlands]

OT,

I don't know about Open Range, but his MGS D806 will moderate frame and weight, if you don't mind the shot of Pine Drive Big Sky behind him. I guess you wouldn't, or you wouldn't use Open Range, duh?

OCC Magnitude is built right from what I have been able to gather from a couple of folks I really trust.

Badlands