Bull ? for Soapweed, or others

[lazy ace]

We sell on a carcass grid and I can't see how selecting for it much on the cowherd side would help much. Most high ribeye bulls leave steery daughters and most top marbling bulls are kind of dairyish.[/quote]

Maybe thats why our ultra sound tech said to shoot for breed average. I don't know but I know the kind of cattle you are talking about.

have a cold one

lazy ace

[Northern Rancher]

I work for a major stud and it's hard to get bulls that are just average-it's a paradigm shift to market genetics that aren't the biggest,milkiest etc. There is a large segment of the business that can and will use bulls that are right in the middle E.P.d wise-in large segments of the industry E.P.D's are alot more about marketing than they are about breed and inherd improvement.

[lazy ace]

[Horseless]

In the last Drovers Journal Lee Leachman of Colorado, says each .20 increase in REA decreases mature cow size by 9 pounds. He says this results in cows that mature earlier and smaller. I find that info surprising as I would like to keep my mother cow size down. Seems to me it would make a bigger cow.

[Andy]

Lee may have seen that in his cows, but I can argue that my small effiecent angus cows have the smaller REA and the larger crossbred cows have larger REA.

[Northern Rancher]

Isn't selection for inches of ribeye/cwt that will slowly result in a decrease in mature size. Larger cattle will usually have a bigger ribeye.

[Horseless]