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mrj Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 3363
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: Promoting superior nutrition of beef. |
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Beef Checkoff Programs are moving from emphasis simply on the enjoyment of beef as the major reason for eating it, to focus on the fantastic nutritional values of beef, according to Jay O'Brien, chair of the Cattlemens Beef Board, governing body of the national share of the Beef Checkoff dollar.
Having seen exciting results from research conducted the past few years proving that great nutrition we have long 'known' was in beef, it is gratifying that we can now advertise and educate consumers of the facts.
It has been fun to see ads pointing out that maybe 10 or 11 chicken breasts would have to be eaten to gain the same nutrients as one 3 ounce piece of beef contains, but actually showing consumers the full nutrient profile and the great recipes in "The Healthy Beef Cookbook" will doubtless gain more beef sales.
Consumers currently are on a health kick, more often searching for foods with good nutrient profiles for their families rather than simply cutting calories, starting with beef.
The Beef Checkoff has also capitalized on partnering with food service businesses. Between 2001 and 2006, the checkoff spent $2.5 million, with foodservice partners investing $138.6 million of their own money to promote new beef dishes on the menu.
One more recent of those partnerships, with Boston Market, introduced new beef menu items to their previously featured mostly rotisserie chicken, quite a coup for the beef industry.
MRJ
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Clarencen Member

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 577 Location: South Central SD
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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I am glad to see that you are still optimistic. I hope the people out there will listen. I am not sure that they will. The past 40 years the vegetarians, food and diet promotion people, our government, and the USDA have bad mouthed beef so badly without basing anything on facts.
So many of the industries that serve agriculture are more interested in selling huge tractors and tillage equipment, chemicals, and new and restricted varieties of seed, than they are of our health, or even of enviormental things.
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mrj Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 3363
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Clarencen wrote: |
I am glad to see that you are still optimistic. I hope the people out there will listen. I am not sure that they will. The past 40 years the vegetarians, food and diet promotion people, our government, and the USDA have bad mouthed beef so badly without basing anything on facts.
So many of the industries that serve agriculture are more interested in selling huge tractors and tillage equipment, chemicals, and new and restricted varieties of seed, than they are of our health, or even of enviormental things. |
Clarence, I believe one of the greatest failings of myself and others who have served on the checkoff and cattlemens' org boards is that so many producers are not well informed of what has been done with checkoff money, and funds from other sources to show consumers how good beef really is.
Part of that is because we want the most possible money spent on showing consumers, not telling producers what they should be getting from their representatives on those boards. Back when I was on the SD Beef Council, we rep's. did report back to our organizations, but we probably were not aggressive enough in seeking publicity to get the info out to producers not attending the meetings.
I'm sorry you are feeling pessimistic. Seeing the bad all the time is depressing, isn't it? How long ago have you heard USDA "bad mouth beef"? I think since USDA monitoring of the Beef Checkoff is required, the people involved have necessarily learned more facts about beef nutrients and accted accordingly.
What else could we expect from people who are either vegetarian, or are promoting odd diets or seeking headlines, though? Unfortunately, they seem so have bundles of money to spend to support their anti-meat agenda. That isn't going to change. However, our Beef Checkoff people have worked very hard, and with considerable success to get those stories either out of mainstream media, or to dilute their effectiveness with factual information stories placed in magazines, newspapers, etc.
The fact that you or I may not see such stories favorable to beef does not mean they are not out there. The consumers who purchase family proteins do not necessarily read the same things we read.
I hope you are not falling into the groups who believe all corporations are bad and greedy, out to lure us into spending money we don't need to spend to make us go broke so they can buy us out, in collusion with USDA to put farmers out of business. Believing that just seems silly, and I know you are not a silly person.
I believe it is the optimistic, excited people who can see opportunities in challenges facing them and the cattle business who are going to succeed and be the cattle industry in the future.
I hope they are taking advantage of information on the Beef Checkoff website to learn what their checkoff is doing, and be part of the action rather than part of the propaganda against it.
Now, I hear Stockgrowers claim that they don't get told what the SD Beef Council is doing, and that a new member of the CBB for SD is the first person who has visited their meetings and told them anything.
Sorry, but it is the responsibility of their three representatives on the SD Beef Councils, to report to them both what the state is doing, and to report what the national CBB reps, who DO report to the SD BIC meetings, have said.
Sure, it is nice to invite the CBB directors to your meetings, but, please offer them some expense money, as state travel probably isn't covered, and of course, their time is all volunteer.
MRJ
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Clarencen Member

Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 577 Location: South Central SD
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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MRJ:
I think you have got me wrong. I am not a pessimist. I have lived all my life on a farm or ranch, and have been in business for myself for more than a half century. I must be some sort of an optimist. still we have to look at reallity. I have supported the beef checkoff, and I still do, but it is not a cure all. Really we have not made that much progress in per- capita comsumpion of beef. Beef consumption has increased because of an increase in population. The check off has done some things that I really appreciate, but most of us counter this with the effect on our bottom line. Cattle prices are good now, maybe we have something to crow about, but that may be short lived, who knows?
I don't believe there is any problem with the producer not seeing what the checkoff and other efforts have done, this information is out there. We can either accept it or not. The real problem is making the consumers trust us. When the consumers don't trust us it creates doubt even amoung ourselves. Look at the tobacco industry, they lied and did everything to make tobacco more addictive and more attractive. We don't want our industry to look the same to them. I am not saying we are being dishonest, I just think we need to be careful how we present the facts to them. Many still believe the things they were told so overwhelmingly back in the late 1960's, and since.
Take a close look at this NCBA-RCalf tug-a-war. What causes it? Isn't a lot of it mistrust? Neither can we overlook greed, or the desire to dominate, or the power to look down on someone. I suppose that will always be with us, human nature I guess.
Part of the problem is ourselves. Sometimes we do not know when enough is enough. We see it all the time. Often, if we have the means or the money we will outbid our neighbors, then console ourselves by saying he was inefficient, or use some other excuse.
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mrj Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 3363
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Clarence, sorry if I misunderstood your pessimism/optimism. It seemed to me you were feeling like it is pretty hopeless to try to show consumers that beef is a beneficial food.
I've been in meetings with consumer focus groups, at conventions and they sure seem friendly to ranchers and favorable to beef, along with frustrated that there are not more beef convenience products, and something to compete with chicken nuggets, etc.
The people invited, almost off the streets, for these meetings have been a pretty broad range of income, social strata, etc. Think the Checkoff staff have gone to various grocery stores to invite the consumers.
Anyway, it has been interesting. Sometimes questionnaires to find knowledge about beef have been handed out to both the consumers and the beef producers. Neither group has been stellar in their knowledge!!!
There has been good exchange of ideas, desires for the product, wish for more improvement in tenderness, uniformity, easier preparation, etc.
The checkoff has made use of the information from consumers.
As to the 'war' between NCBA and R-CALF, I collected a lot of information from ag papers, attending meetings, etc. during the period just preceding foundation of R-CALF
It's my firm conviction and many wiser than I agree, but most feel it's useless to pursue the point, that a few people angry at not prevailing in issues in NCBA decided to 'go after' them.
Pat Goggins, then pres. of Livestock Marketing Assoc. was a leader, along with his buddy, Leo McDonald and were, or are, they cohorts in the Midlands Bull Test Station?) attended and addressed many "informational meetings" set up by/at local auction markets where "facts" about "NCBA living off your Beef Checkoff" were revealed.
That was all fiction, but angry ranchers who had no knowledge of the facts were all too eager to believe it. Thus, the 'petition drive' to end the Beef Checkoff was begun, and as Herman Schumacher of SD stated, "we had to go after the Beef Checkoff to stop NCBA".
It failed badly, and 'they' refused to believe that, claiming it was scuttled by USDA. Using that as more 'fodder' to feed the unrest in cattle country, (I may not have the sequence exact here).
Somewhere along the way, R-CALF was born. Stopping imports from Canada and elsewhere were also involved, and that may have been the issue that NCBA members refusal to support which sort of began the whole thing. The fact that Pat G. wanted to be pres. of NCBA and was turned down did not improve matters, either.
Aside from the tragedy of truth being trampled so often by the group, I've no problem with another cattle org for people who only want to sell cattle, not beef, and such, but their handing over money by the bushel to lawyers seems a tragic waste with so much of it coming from ranchers who will be hard-pressed to stay in business when times get tougher.
It seems the issue of R-CALF using major media to sow the seeds of fear in consumers over beef safety is the only thing, other than defending itself from their attacks, that NCBA has had made any public statement regarding R-CALF over in public, so the fuss seems quite one-sided. It will work itself out, eventually.
I realize the beef checkoff isn't a cure all. It couldn't be. It was designed to do some things to improve the sale of beef that no one else was doing, especially to prove that the health benefits were not properly recognized. I truly believe that will be the biggest benefit to all of us in the cattle/beef business in the near future.
Also, having the documentation for our animal welfare, safety, nutritient profile, etc. will be extremely beneficial in countering attacks on our industry by those who would end animal agriculture, for one.
Do you, by the way, have any of your plant books for sale?
Wishing you a blessed 2007.
Maxine Jones
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Sandhusker Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 18242 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Tell me, MRJ, if the NCBA lost their contracts with the beef board, what would happen to their staffing levels?
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mrj Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 3363
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Sandhusker wrote: |
| Tell me, MRJ, if the NCBA lost their contracts with the beef board, what would happen to their staffing levels? |
A better question would be "what would happen to the progress that the Beef Checkoff has made in showing consumers how beef is healthful, nutritient rich, and a great value for the money they pay?"
However, the contracting agent for the Beef Checkoff projects is the Federation Division of NCBA and it is NOT, repeat IS NOT the Policy Division. Contracts are on a cost recovery only basis.
The Federation Division is simply the national body of the state Beef Councils. Those members are representatives sent from virtually every state and national cattle org. in the nation, INCLUDING members of R-CALF. Ditto for the Cattlemens' Beef Board. They are the only ones determining Checkoff spending.
The Policy Division is the people who are members of state affiliates, and NCBA. They determine the policy issues NCBA supports in Washington and elsewhere.
Staff works and records time appropriately, in 15 minute increments. Policy/Dues payer division pays for it's share of time and Federation Division/and/or CBB pays for their own time share.
The Firewalls are verifiable, and very well observed and accounted for.
You really shouldn't delude yourself into believing that NCBA is going to disappear just because you hope it will! Cattlemen have recognized the importance of having a viable national organization for well over 100 years now, and are not likely to stop anytime soon.
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Sandhusker Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 18242 Location: Nebraska
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Big Muddy rancher Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 15724 Location: Big Muddy valley
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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MRJ in Sask. we pay a checkoff to promote beef thru the Beef Information Center. (BIC). Money well spent in my opinion.
I am involved in Sask Prairie Conservation Action Plan. The conservation community in Sask is very Pro ranching as the feel it is very environmentaly friendly.
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mrj Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 3363
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Sandhusker wrote: |
A better question would be "why didn't you answer the question"?  |
OK, OK. I'll answer your silly question........if you will try to find something useful to do so I can get back to work!
I have a feeling NCBA dues paying cattle producer members realize better than most non-member cattle producers the immense values of checkoff programs to our business.
Therefore, we probably would do our own thing, removing staff from the checkoff to work in a closed system or group of beef production and marketing alliances which would not have to observe the constraints of the current checkoff.
That would enable CATTLE PRODUCERS who are serious about selling BEEF to benefit from our efforts, and leave those who are not back in the commodity bin.
My point is, NCBA is not going to disappear if the checkoff ends, or is "taken away from NCBA"........and will probably get even bigger and better.
BMR......good for you. Hasn't the Canadian 'checkoff' had a part in selling so much beef in Canada since the border closure, especially cow beef? You have had a tough deal and some of you are doing yoemans work in helping to make the best of a bad deal, IMO.
Great that your conservation outfit sees the reality of benefits of cattle ranching to the environment.........Suppose I'll get hassled over this, too, but NCBA has done tremendous work to get that going in the USA to counter the eco-freako stand that all productive uses of land is bad.
MRJ
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fedup2 Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 794
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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MRJ writes: [Therefore, we probably would do our own thing, removing staff from the checkoff to work in a closed system or group of beef production and marketing alliances which would not have to observe the constraints of the current checkoff.
That would enable CATTLE PRODUCERS who are serious about selling BEEF to benefit from our efforts, and leave those who are not back in the commodity bin.
MRJ writes: [“My point is, NCBA is not going to disappear if the checkoff ends, or is "taken away from NCBA"........and will probably get even bigger and better.”]
If the NCBA could get bigger & better at representing the cattle producer by getting rid of the check off,(getting rid of it by letting someone else take it over) why do they want it? If you are constrained by the checkoff and could do a better job by getting rid of that constraint, why wouldn't you? Aren’t cattle ‘producers’ supposed to be the people they are representing? Or have their priorities changed? Ya better straighten me out as I am confused again.
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~SH~ Rancher

Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 5426 Location: South Western SD
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Fedup,
Can you provide one example of misuse of beef checkoff funds?
If not, what's your problem this time?
Must be the letters NCBA huh? Can't think for yourself again huh?
~SH~
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