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Denny
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOC HARRIS wrote:
Denny-

Just curious . . . .Have you had your soil tested for Iodine and Copper?

DOC HARRIS


Nope What for?????


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denny-

No big deal! Just looking at your calves haircoat, and wondered if they might have a copper deficiency.

"They" continue to tell us that one's soil should be tested for mineral deficiencies regularly. I agree. Merely curious.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOC, those calves just aren't shed off yet.
I know a lot about copper deficiency in cattle
and this red tinge throughout their body
is NOT the sign of copper deficiency.

Copper deficiency is characterized by a triangle shape up by their shoulders, kind of where
a wither would be on a horse. And in the picture of all the cows,
I didn't see one cow that had that characteristic. If you look
closely, I think you will agree it is merely hair that hasn't shed.

These calves could have a worm load, but they aren't copper
deficient. I'd bet my life on it.

Denny, I'd take a fecal and check them for worms...I can tell
you where to send it and it won't cost you a cent.
WARNING: don't take it to your local vet. Most of them don't have
the proper equipment to check for parasites in cattle. What they
have is for dogs. Ask your local vet if he has a Wisconsin Spinner.
If he does, then he can check the fecal accurately. (BTW, I only know of
ONE vet who has a Wisconsin spinner.)

Nice stout calves. Things look good in your country.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faster Horses-

Thanks for the information! I'll recognize those symptoms next time.

DOC HARRIS


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Denny
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faster horses wrote:
DOC, those calves just aren't shed off yet.
I know a lot about copper deficiency in cattle
and this red tinge throughout their body
is NOT the sign of copper deficiency.

Copper deficiency is characterized by a triangle shape up by their shoulders, kind of where
a wither would be on a horse. And in the picture of all the cows,
I didn't see one cow that had that characteristic. If you look
closely, I think you will agree it is merely hair that hasn't shed.

These calves could have a worm load, but they aren't copper
deficient. I'd bet my life on it.

Denny, I'd take a fecal and check them for worms...I can tell
you where to send it and it won't cost you a cent.
WARNING: don't take it to your local vet. Most of them don't have
the proper equipment to check for parasites in cattle. What they
have is for dogs. Ask your local vet if he has a Wisconsin Spinner.
If he does, then he can check the fecal accurately. (BTW, I only know of
ONE vet who has a Wisconsin spinner.)

Nice stout calves. Things look good in your country.


Thanks but I don't believe they have an extreme worm load the calf in question is on a 1st calf heifer and was'nt exactly the best picture of him he's alot better than the picture dictates.Most of the calves in this pasture are on the young end of the spectrum or on 1st calf heifers.

I just looked again the calf in the single picture is the same calf in the last large group with the big hip he's out of a Bushwacker bred 1st calf heifer and my Viking bull.

I guess I could check them for worms just to see for sure.But then I would need some Safegaurd Wink wonder where I could get that. Laughing


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