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Goodpasture
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Joined: 14 Jul 2007
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Location: Pawnee Nation
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How, in any biological sense, can you consider this person to be a man? this is a transgendered individual who, although has had the breast reduction, did NOT have any reproductive organs removed and quit taking testosterone shots two years ago. So she lives as a man, it does not make her a man....... what it does is makes her a lesbian with an artificially inseminated pregnancy (unless, of course, she actually got laid by a real man with real sperm).
I don't see how this makes her "special" or different from thousands of other transgendered women who prefer to live as a man, but still have the desire to bear children. |
You've really been giving this a lot of thought, haven't you?  |
If calling yourself something MAKES you that something, I think I will call myself a millionaire.....hell, why be a piker.....I'll call myself a billionaire. Now lets see if I can pay cash for a Ferrari...........but no, I didn't put a lot of thought into it. It seems some things are simply apparent on the surface.........of course, if Oprah has a show on this, it will make the tabloids. But then she has 5 hours a week of scintillating conversation to generate.
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CattleArmy
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CattleArmy
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jigs
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Location: KANSAS
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| plenty of us LOOK pregnant
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CattleArmy
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Mrs.Greg
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Location: Alberta
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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How, in any biological sense, can you consider this person to be a man? this is a transgendered individual who, although has had the breast reduction, did NOT have any reproductive organs removed and quit taking testosterone shots two years ago. So she lives as a man, it does not make her a man....... what it does is makes her a lesbian with an artificially inseminated pregnancy (unless, of course, she actually got laid by a real man with real sperm).
I don't see how this makes her "special" or different from thousands of other transgendered women who prefer to live as a man, but still have the desire to bear children. |
I agree.I find it ridiculous they're even calling the bearer a man,and giving "her" all this publicity 
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Oldtimer
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Location: Northeast Montana
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I received an e-mail today with this article and pictures of Thomas.....
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No doubt some of you have alrady seen this story, as it's been all over the papers and news...
Thomas Beatie is a transgender male and he's 22 weeks pregnant. Thomas still has a vagina, but he's legally male. He shares his life with his legal wife, Nancy. Thomas gave a first person account to the Advocate on how he came to be pregnant with a baby girl.
Thomas writes, "Ten years ago, when Nancy and I became a couple, the idea of us having a child was more dream than plan. I always wanted to have children. However, due to severe endometriosis 20 years ago, Nancy had to undergo a hysterectomy and is unable to carry a child. But after the success of our custom screen-printing business and a move from Hawaii to the Pacific Northwest two years ago, the timing finally seemed right. I stopped taking my bimonthly testosterone injections. It had been roughly eight years since I had my last menstrual cycle, so this wasn't a decision that I took lightly. My body regulated itself after about four months, and I didn't have to take any exogenous estrogen, progesterone, or fertility drugs to aid my pregnancy."
One year and many doctors later, Thomas got pregnant with triplets, but the pregnancy was ectopic. He eventually lost his embryos and his right fallopian tube. His second pregnancy has been a success and he's due on July 3, 2008.
He said that not many people in their community know about his pregnancy. He said they have "begun experiencing opposition from people who are upset by our situation. Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Health care professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognize Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy's family doesn't even know I'm transgender." |
Thomas when "it" was a female before surgery...Not a bad looking chick...
Thomas now as a pregnant ?....
Thomas and "its" wife...
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aplusmnt
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Location: Southeast Kansas
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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How, in any biological sense, can you consider this person to be a man? this is a transgendered individual who, although has had the breast reduction, did NOT have any reproductive organs removed and quit taking testosterone shots two years ago. So she lives as a man, it does not make her a man....... what it does is makes her a lesbian with an artificially inseminated pregnancy (unless, of course, she actually got laid by a real man with real sperm).
I don't see how this makes her "special" or different from thousands of other transgendered women who prefer to live as a man, but still have the desire to bear children. |
I agree, the story is that a flat chested, bearded lesbian decided to have a baby. End of story!
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