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kolanuraven
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Talk about a whiner............. Reply with quote

CNN) — John McCain criticized Barack Obama Saturday for not denouncing comments from a speaker at a North Dakota Democratic Party event calling the Arizona senator a "warmonger."

The comments in question came Friday evening at an event in North Dakota where Barack Obama also spoke. Radio talk show host Ed Schultz addressed the crowd, during which he criticized McCain's support of the Iraq war and called him a "warmonger." Obama was not present for Schultz's comments and spoke later at the event.

"I hope that in keeping with the spirit of Sen. Obama, that they condemn, that Sen. Obama will condemn such language since it was a part of his campaign," McCain said. "But that kind of language is unnecessary for this campaign. I think its very clear how I feel about war and my experiences with it." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ ....link to whole story.


Now correct me if I'm wrong , but wasn't it McCain what did his version of " bomb..bomb...Iran', a take off of the old Beach Boys song...and then giggled about it??????

Ahhh...here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

Besides, why should Obama basically take up for McCain? Apparently Obama wasn't even close by when the statement was made.

This is what I mean when I say McCain is ' dottery'.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Talk about a whiner............. Reply with quote

kolanuraven wrote:
This is what I mean when I say McCain is ' dottery'.

He is simply trying to remain on the front page of the newspapers. With all the attention focusing on where the action is (the campaigns of Obama and Clinton) he is lost in the shuffle.......he has to say something, however mundane, to remain relevant.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it funny that both Obama and Hillary spoke at the North Dakota convention. I think they got mixed up on which of the Dakotas has yet to hold a primary. Who knows maybe they think McCain will be the first Republican to lose North Dakota since Goldwater.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found it funny that both Obama and Hillary spoke at the North Dakota convention. I think they got mixed up on which of the Dakotas has yet to hold a primary. Who knows maybe they think McCain will be the first Republican to lose North Dakota since Goldwater.


They both been in Montana for the last few days too-- with Obama drawing some large crowds...In Missoula (college town) yesterday they said the lines were already around the building by 7:30 AM (with folks starting to line up at 6AM) for the 10AM speech- with at least 7700 of the 8000 tickets having been presold...
Obama even hit the world famous M&M Bar in Butte America...

Bill didn't apparently impress our Governor:

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Bill Clinton told hard-faced souls on the high plains that enough wind blows from Texas to Montana "to electrify America." Schweitzer had a slightly different take. "His speeches went on long enough to run a wind turbine," he said, when I spoke to him this week.




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldtimer wrote:
-- with Obama drawing some large crows...

Your crows there bigger than they are here??????????????


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldtimer wrote:
Bullhauler wrote:
I found it funny that both Obama and Hillary spoke at the North Dakota convention. I think they got mixed up on which of the Dakotas has yet to hold a primary. Who knows maybe they think McCain will be the first Republican to lose North Dakota since Goldwater.


They both been in Montana for the last few days too-- with Obama drawing some large crows...In Missoula (college town) yesterday they said the lines were already around the building by 7:30 AM (with folks starting to line up at 6AM) for the 10AM speech- with at least 7700 of the 8000 tickets having been presold...
Obama even hit the world famous M&M Bar in Butte America...

Bill didn't apparently impress our Governor:

Quote:
Bill Clinton told hard-faced souls on the high plains that enough wind blows from Texas to Montana "to electrify America." Schweitzer had a slightly different take. "His speeches went on long enough to run a wind turbine," he said, when I spoke to him this week.



That is funny because I don't think either one has been in South Dakota yet and we have a primary coming up.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goodpasture wrote:
Oldtimer wrote:
-- with Obama drawing some large crows...

Your crows there bigger than they are here??????????????


Yah I saw that now-fixed it---Could have been crows too as we been seeing some of those lately....Cranes going north too- so spring must be here....

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Obama revs up early Missoula crowd
By KEILA SZPALLER
Missoulian

MISSOULA - Missoula roared Saturday morning for U.S. Sen. Barack Obama. In the Adams Center, Montanans danced, held up their babies and even wept for a presidential candidate that some believe will restore the American Dream in their towns and integrity to the White House.
"I've lived here in Montana all my life. I've never seen anything here like this before, this energy today. Montana is coming alive," said Carole Meyers of Missoula.
http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/04/06/news/state/23-election_g.txt


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Obama: Health care, tax cuts key
By CHARLES S. JOHNSON
Gazette State Bureau

BUTTE - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said in an interview Saturday night that the first step to improve health care availability in rural areas like Montana is to make sure every American has health coverage.

In an brief interview with the Gazette State Bureau after his speech in the Butte Civic Center, the Illinois senator also said that one way to deal with fast-rising gasoline prices is to provide tax cuts to middle-class people so they will have more money to spend on gas. He called for targeting excessive profits by American oil companies and making the companies invest in alternative energy and increasing refinery capacity.

On gun issues, Obama said he doesn't think Montanans would disagree with his position. He said he is a defender of the Second Amendment but favors more effective background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people.

Here are highlights of the interview: Q: Montana's a state, as you've probably seen, with a lot of distance between people. Rural health care is a major problem. It's some of these towns to even attract doctors, much less hospitals. What would you propose to do about rural health care?

"First of all, we've got to take care of health care generally by making sure that everybody's got coverage. I put forward a plan that lowers people's premiums for those who have health insurance by up to $2,500 per family per year, and everybody who doesn't have health insurance or who wants better health insurance, they can buy into a health care plan similar to the one I have as a member of Congress.

"As you pointed out, we've got a particular problem with rural health care, and that's why I think it's so important for us to provide scholarships for medical students who are willing to local to rural areas, nurses. We've got to make sure we're giving the help to rural hospitals to stay open, and that includes providing them with resources for information technology so they can become more efficient and more effective in the care that they provide."

Q: Again citing the rural nature of the state, gasoline prices are projected to be $4 a gallon. There's a lot of distance between places. Do you have any immediate fixes?

"The immediate fix is to provide middles class tax cuts to people making $75,000 a year and less, which will mean an additional $1,000 in the pockets of hard-working families. For senior citizens, if they make less than $50,000, they shouldn't have to pay income taxes on their Social Security. That will put more money in their pockets.

"We also should look going after at the windfall profits of some of these oil companies. ExxonMobil made $11 billion in the last quarter, and getting them to reinvest in some refinery capacity could also could provide some relief.

"Long term, we've got to move toward alternative energy, and your governor has been a great leader on this issue."

Q: Your position on guns probably isn't popular with a lot of Montanans. How would you defend that to a Montanan?

"I think it might get distorted in a way that wasn't popular, but my actual position I think is perfectly compatible, with the view of most Montanans, which is I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in the right to lawful gun ownership.

"I also think that we should we add more effective background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and keep guns out of the hands of those with mental-health problems. I think we should close the gun show loophole and go after unscrupulous gun dealers that are selling to distraught purchasers."




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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Talk about a whiner............. Reply with quote

Goodpasture wrote:
kolanuraven wrote:
This is what I mean when I say McCain is ' dottery'.

He is simply trying to remain on the front page of the newspapers. With all the attention focusing on where the action is (the campaigns of Obama and Clinton) he is lost in the shuffle.......he has to say something, however mundane, to remain relevant.


Actually, with the Democrats at each other's throats exposing the weaknesses of their candidates and the reasons that disqualify either from being President, he's just sitting in the corner taking notes and giggling his butt off.

Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sitting in the corner giggling his butt off might say more about his mental state than anything else.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless there are some changes before November, it looks like our political situation is in a sorry mess.
What we need is someone who can again make the position of the presidency respectable. We also need someone who can renew the worlds respect for our country. I don't know if any of the present candidates can do that.

I can not see how Obama has got to where he is. I really believe that our ultra liberal, anything goes if it feels good, media has led the people around like sheep.

Obama is really an alien. and an outsider. Although his mother was an American and he was born on US territory, his father is from, and lives in Kenya. I believe his father is a Muslin and has had four wives. I can not believe he has the fundamental background of some one we want for president. We may be ready for a black man as president but not Obama.

My choice, I guess would be McCain, but he is 71 years old, may only be able to serve one term. A president doesn't really get much dome until the second half of his first term and the first half of his second term.

Please, God help us.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What changes could possibly happen before November? The average voter is not going to look at an independent.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Talk about a whiner............. Reply with quote

kolanuraven wrote:
CNN) — John McCain criticized Barack Obama Saturday for not denouncing comments from a speaker at a North Dakota Democratic Party event calling the Arizona senator a "warmonger."

The comments in question came Friday evening at an event in North Dakota where Barack Obama also spoke. Radio talk show host Ed Schultz addressed the crowd, during which he criticized McCain's support of the Iraq war and called him a "warmonger." Obama was not present for Schultz's comments and spoke later at the event.

"I hope that in keeping with the spirit of Sen. Obama, that they condemn, that Sen. Obama will condemn such language since it was a part of his campaign," McCain said. "But that kind of language is unnecessary for this campaign. I think its very clear how I feel about war and my experiences with it." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ ....link to whole story.


Now correct me if I'm wrong , but wasn't it McCain what did his version of " bomb..bomb...Iran', a take off of the old Beach Boys song...and then giggled about it??????

Ahhh...here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

Besides, why should Obama basically take up for McCain? Apparently Obama wasn't even close by when the statement was made.

This is what I mean when I say McCain is ' dottery'.
I think that Libs are more musical than conservatives, by and large. By making a song out of his intentions to start a war with Iran, he is obviously hoping that this will work on them like a jingle for a successful product.....or at least that's what I'm thinking by the way so many of you keep coming back to a stupid joke....apparently it's working. Rolling Eyes


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