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Mrs.Greg
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our athletes to China for the Olympics this summer? With all the trouble going on in China,do you think we need to be sending the best of the best into this country?
Chinese authorities say they have arrested 35 people in connection with an alleged terrorist plot to kidnap athletes and others at the Beijing Olympics later this year.
CTV.ca News
Ministry of Public Security spokesperson Wu Heping told a news conference after the arrests -- which took place between March 26 and April 6 -- that "We face a real terrorist threat."
CTV's Steve Chao reported that the suspects are alleged to be part of a criminal ring in the Xinjiang region, a predominantly Muslim region in western China.
"(Chinese officials) say this group was plotting to kidnap athletes, foreign journalists, and other visitors during the summer Games," Chao told CTV's Canada AM on Thursday.
"They haven't offered up much evidence in terms of what they have ... just a few months ago the same public bureau said they foiled a plan to hijack and down a passenger plane coming from the same area."
Chao said the Chinese claimed that the alleged plotters were aiming to disturb the Olympics.
"Other critics say that little proof has been presented and they question whether these are simply excuses made to justify a crackdown on dissent in that region. It's hard for (reporters) to confirm."
Western embassies had asked for more evidence about the alleged hijacking plot but diplomats have said none has been forthcoming.
Wu said Thursday that police had confiscated about 10 kilograms of explosives, eight sticks of dynamite, and "jihadist" literature in the latest raid.
Wu also told reporters about a raid in January on a group he said was planning to attack hotels, government offices, and military targets.
Wu said that group was working under the orders of a Muslim group seeking independence for Xinjiang province.
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aplusmnt
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I am not not sure on this one, as Jigs would say I have a fence post up my butt since I am sitting on the fence.
I hate when sports become political, rather it is the local little league or Olympics.
But I realize the Olympics are as much political as sports entertainment. Need more info personally but hope it does not come to a boycott of any kind.
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| Should we be sending our athletes to China for the Olympics this summer? |
I would easily say screw china.. and cancel the games, boycott them even tell our athletes not to go..
but maybe the question should be,..Who would it hurt the most if the games were boycotted ? ,.. not china.. many would still go, and the games would go on...
For our athletes it is often a once in a lifetime chance.. a event many of them have sacrificed and trained for for their entire life..
In four years many would not be able to compete on the same level, and the opportunity would be gone...
Just as stopping the torch or spitting on the torch bearer, doesn't hurt china.. it hurts the torch bearer who was chosen to carry the torch..
While there should be a way to protest for the people of China and Tibet.. denying china the games in the first place would have been a better option..
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aplusmnt
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| Just watched last nights O'Reilly and Dennis Miller had a great idea, all the athletes should dress up in monks robes to enter the stadium for the opening ceremony. Embarrass china and make a statement that would stand more than not going.
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leanin' H
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| Oldtimer, are you at all proud of America? Cause most of your posts seem to carry distain for the U.S.A. and anything that President Bush has tried to do. My grandfather spent 9 months in a French hospital after world war 1 because he was mustard gassed protecting your freedom to whine and bitch and complain about anything any Republican does. I'm just curious if ANYTHING about America pleases you of if you'd be happy as a Cuban?
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| Oldtimer, are you at all proud of America? Cause most of your posts seem to carry distain for the U.S.A. and anything that President Bush has tried to do. My grandfather spent 9 months in a French hospital after world war 1 because he was mustard gassed protecting your freedom to whine and bitch and complain about anything any Republican does. I'm just curious if ANYTHING about America pleases you of if you'd be happy as a Cuban? |
I am very proud of America- and that is one of the reasons I voice my opinions....I have never in my life seen one President do so much as this idiot has in avoiding enforcing any law, eroding the Constitution, selling out the sovereignty of the nation, and losing all credibility/respect the US has in the world...I thought no one could be worse than Clinton- boy did I get surprised 
For your info- my father served in Company G, the 163rd Rifle Battalion, of the 41st Infantry (Rainbow Division) from 1940 to 1945- many months of that time which were spent in an Australian hospital where he had been evacutated from New Guinea- during most of which he was unconscious without his family knowing if he was alive or dead...He was a totally disabled veteran- who died a premature death because of his war connected disabilities at age 59.....
So don't give me the current neocon bull of being holier than thou, if I don't drink the Bushite Koolaid- and because I still believe in the laws of this country, the Constitution, and the 3 branch power of government which we've survived over 200 years with- and that I've spent 37 years enforcing and protecting - all of which GW has shown contempt for and is arrogantly doing everything to destroy in his efforts to sell out this country to his elitist corporate buddies and lobbyiests....
Cheney summed up King Georges reign quite well the other day when told that some polls showed that up to 80% of Americans wanted the US to get out of Iraq-- when he answered "SO WHAT"   
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kolanuraven
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| leanin' H wrote: |
| Oldtimer, are you at all proud of America? Cause most of your posts seem to carry distain for the U.S.A. and anything that President Bush has tried to do. My grandfather spent 9 months in a French hospital after world war 1 because he was mustard gassed protecting your freedom to whine and bitch and complain about anything any Republican does. I'm just curious if ANYTHING about America pleases you of if you'd be happy as a Cuban? |
I am very proud of America- and that is one of the reasons I voice my opinions....I have never in my life seen one President do so much as this idiot has in avoiding enforcing any law, eroding the Constitution, selling out the sovereignty of the nation, and losing all credibility/respect the US has in the world...I thought no one could be worse than Clinton- boy did I get surprised
For your info- my father served in Company G, the 163rd Rifle Battalion, of the 41st Infantry (Rainbow Division) from 1940 to 1945- many months of that time which were spent in an Australian hospital where he had been evacutated from New Guinea- during most of which he was unconscious without his family knowing if he was alive or dead...He was a totally disabled veteran- who died a premature death because of his war connected disabilities at age 59.....
So don't give me the current neocon bull of being holier than thou, if I don't drink the Bushite Koolaid- and because I still believe in the laws of this country, the Constitution, and the 3 branch power of government which we've survived over 200 years with- and that I've spent 37 years enforcing and protecting - all of which GW has shown contempt for and is arrogantly doing everything to destroy in his efforts to sell out this country to his elitist corporate buddies and lobbyiests....
Cheney summed up King Georges reign quite well the other day when told that some polls showed that up to 80% of Americans wanted the US to get out of Iraq-- when he answered "SO WHAT" |
Excellent OT!!
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