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Sandhusker
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Location: Nebraska
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| Soapweed wrote: |
| My sister was a teacher until she died of ovarian cancer in 1993, at the age of 38. She was a good conservative thinker, but as a teacher, she was almost "required" to belong to the NEA (National Education Association). She needed the liability insurance and other benefits that were provided by the NEA, but a part of her dues always went to support the Democrat candidates running for President, even though she personally voted for the Republican candidates. To me, that doesn't seem right. I'll bet, if the truth were known, there are a lot of potentially very good teachers that don't follow teaching as a career for this very reason. |
You're not going to ever get away from your money indirectly going to candidates that you don't like, Soap. NCBA pac money has gone to Democrats. Candidates you don't support also get your money via insurance companies that you do business with, gas companies, drug companies, etc...
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TSR
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I used to be anti-union too, until I worked for 10 years in a union shop. It's isn't a perfect deal, because there is too much of this "Treat everybody equal" crap - and not everybody works equal so I didn't think they deserved to be treated equal. However, the average wage then was something like $12/hour and we were all getting all the overtime we could take - and the companies records showed that labor was still only 12% of the cost of the product.
Because of the wages and benefits that we had, we were all paying taxes and nobody was getting food stamps, free school lunches, leaving medical bills to others to pay, etc..... I'm pretty sure that without the union, we would of been tax receivers instead of tax payers. |
Great observation there SH, I agree completely. I wonder how many who criticize unions have ever worked in a factory where there was a union and one where there wasn't. No unions aren't perfect but neither are corporations and their administrative staffs.
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aplusmnt
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Location: Southeast Kansas
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Great observation there SH, I agree completely. I wonder how many who criticize unions have ever worked in a factory where there was a union and one where there wasn't. No unions aren't perfect but neither are corporations and their administrative staffs. |
My observation of unions has been second hand. But what I have noticed in my area is how many people use to work for union factories that do not now. Because these unions played a large part in putting the company out of business.
I believe unions did good and served a purpose and could still do good if the members kept things in a reality check.
We had a chain of grocery stores in the area years ago, back 20 years ago stock boys were making $10.00 an hour, while the non union stock boys at other stores were making $6.00 an hour. Well the union stores are all gone, over 20 stores. The non union stores are all still here, non went out of business and providing jobs at a fair wage for the training they need.
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