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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hopalong wrote:
Oldtimer wrote:
loomixguy wrote:
Oldtimer wrote:
loomixguy wrote:
Yes, you do disagree, you miserable old coot. With every post you make and every breath you take. If you don't want that new grandchild to be speaking Arabic in her lifetime, you need to change your philosophies PDQ!


What I disagree with is the Idiot that has been trying to micromanage this War on Terrorism--his misguided directions--muddled State Department/Defense Department battle and micromanaging- and his inability to solve the infighting between his own people and Agencies that have led to one mistaken made decision after another- as well as the squandering of Billions of US taxpayer dollars ...

Gets pretty bad when you have to go to kicking out Generals and Admirals until you can get down to a Junior "yes man" so you can get one to agree with you...Or when the Department of Defense won't talk to- or even let the National Security Advisor in the Pentagon building-- or state Department hired mercenaries are given tactical control of US troops.... Shocked

His arrogance and inability to be open with the people- and especially with Congress that has Constitutional oversight duties- which then caught him up in falsehood after falsehood-- has even got the Republicans in the Congressional hearings on the Secrets Act saying it needs to be changed to prevent another end run by a "wanna be King" President....



You got references to substantiate these claims, or is this just the opinion of a bitter old man? You should be a "guest consultant" on any MSM political show.


Most are all in the Congressional Records- taken under oath as sworn testimony....The Secrets Acts hearings are still ongoing I think...I watched one session last week on C-SPAN...


You need to remember Oldwhiner has set on on secret meetings with the fbi/cia when he was sherriff in a one hores county in Montana!!
They sought his opinion on how to handle the whole world situation, in fact these meetings were so SECRET only he knew of them, and he was blindfolded -prior to getting on the Black chopper that picked him up on that deserted road outside of his 500000000 acre ranch inside the city limits of his mind. as he was dreaming of his next major supreme court ruling about the last coroner case he presided over in between his sessions of the Montana legislative sessions that he attended every session every vote!


I thought you were "SICK OF" the name calling memanpa?
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Hanta Yo
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Texan wrote:
Hanta Yo wrote:
Sandhusker wrote:
Nice post, Hanta.


Thanks, Sandhusker. I'm glad we do agree on political ideologies....

Hmmm....y'all are starting to sound a bit cozy. Mrs. Husker and sw might need to keep an eye on this situation. I'd hate to see you two trying to slip off to the R-CALF and NCBA conventions together. Laughing


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing LOLOLOLOL However, it is nice to agree on something once in a while when we are so vehement in our arguments about rlaff. Of course, when I feel not so nice, I can always go back up to Bull sessions and pick a fight Wink Wink Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hanta Yo wrote:
Texan wrote:
Hanta Yo wrote:
Sandhusker wrote:
Nice post, Hanta.


Thanks, Sandhusker. I'm glad we do agree on political ideologies....

Hmmm....y'all are starting to sound a bit cozy. Mrs. Husker and sw might need to keep an eye on this situation. I'd hate to see you two trying to slip off to the R-CALF and NCBA conventions together. Laughing


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing LOLOLOLOL However, it is nice to agree on something once in a while when we are so vehement in our arguments about rlaff. Of course, when I feel not so nice, I can always go back up to Bull sessions and pick a fight Wink Wink Wink


You get your packer-puckerer nonsense of the week from the Nonsensical Corporate Beef Assn. and you know where to find me!

Hanta isn't all bad, she just needs a little exposure to the truth every now and then! One of these days, she'll buy me a drink at the R-CALF convention and thank me straightening her out.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was very interesting watching the Secrets Act Hearings- as many of those I saw testifying had been former White House Legal Counsels- 2 for Bush, 1 for Clinton, and 1 for Reagan-- and it was consensus amongst them that Bush's handling of the Secrets Act- and his refusal to inform and give the info to Congress- made it apparent the law needed changing to put more teeth behind Congress/public oversight....

As the fella that was Bush's counsel until 2005 testified--altho he did not believe it was any type of GW major conspiracy or that it during his time as counsel for GW did major harm to the nation-- the refusal to give Congress information about all the secret policy/orders and even the fact it existed (100's - many of which have not been revealed to Congress or the public)- was border line illegal- and brought up a huge grey area of the Administrations actual powers and the Constitutional division of powers between the administrative and legislative branches of government that border on the dangerous.....The former Reagan counsel went further and said that it bordered on autocracy- and badly damaged the Constitutional division of powers....

And as this Bush counsel brought up- and I think most of the Republicans are now recognizing- without some major changes to the law now- their failures to demand more oversight of GW- and GW's refusal to give Congress any info has now set "precedents" that future Presidents can use in commiting secret acts and in Congressional/Judicial hearings about oversight and secrecy that these future Presidents can use....

And I think many of those Republican lawmakers are now realizing that it is a good chance that that next President that has control over these powers they allowed GW to set "precedent" on - could easily be Hillary or Obama Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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One of these days, she'll buy me a drink at the R-CALF convention and thank me straightening her out.



LOLOLOLOLOLOLFat chance, buster.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hanta Yo wrote:
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One of these days, she'll buy me a drink at the R-CALF convention and thank me straightening her out.



LOLOLOLOLOLOLFat chance, buster.


I'll have either a bourbon on the rocks or a gin & tonic, depending on the weather. Heck, I'll even buy you a drink right back and we'll just laugh about your foolish misguided youth.
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