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 Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: McCain's ties to terrorism |
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William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.
During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.
Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.
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kolanuraven
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: McCain's ties to terrorism |
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William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.
During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.
Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.
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Bush is enough of a terrorist to take McCain down in the polls........now he's got 2 more taggin' on.
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TexasBred
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: McCain's ties to terrorism |
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William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to head his presidential transition team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.
The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.
During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.
Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.
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Well at least McCain didn't say "I was only 8 years old"...and you guys are the ones who think past relationships and aquaintances don't matter. We must forgive "Terrorists" like Wm. Ayers. You think Sadaam should still be in power, having done nothing wrong, yet out of the same mouth you accuse a man of dealing wtih Terrorist because of this relationship???
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TexasBred
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| Come on OT....don't you do anything but read the comic strips?? Guess that makes all of us Southerners traitors and terrorists as well??? Maybe we should succeed...better yet...let's cut New England off and make it a state...Put Montana with Washington, Oregon, and California and make that a state...Then the heartland can be the United States of America without all the liberal BS.
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Sandhusker
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| Come on OT....don't you do anything but read the comic strips?? Guess that makes all of us Southerners traitors and terrorists as well??? Maybe we should succeed...better yet...let's cut New England off and make it a state...Put Montana with Washington, Oregon, and California and make that a state...Then the heartland can be the United States of America without all the liberal BS. |
Hey, I think you're onto something.....
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| Come on OT....don't you do anything but read the comic strips?? Guess that makes all of us Southerners traitors and terrorists as well??? Maybe we should succeed...better yet...let's cut New England off and make it a state...Put Montana with Washington, Oregon, and California and make that a state...Then the heartland can be the United States of America without all the liberal BS. |
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| Among the new recruits was Todd Palin, whose wife, Sarah, would later become governor of Alaska. The Palins attended the party’s convention in their hometown, Wasilla, in 1994, according to party officials, where the party called for a revote on statehood and a draft constitution for an independent Republic of Alaska. Mr. Palin joined the party. |
Didn't those type actions already cause us a Civil War- where there were 700,000 casualties  Old Abe would be rolling in his grave if he knew this country had gotten so low they'd think of electing a Vice President with ties to a political group that promoted again trying to divide this country by succession... 
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| How many bombs did the Alaskans set off?
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Vision
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With Obama it is guilt by participation.
VIDEO: Obama Campaign Conceeds They Lied About Ayers - Admits Obama Knew About Ayers Past When They Worked Together
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/admits-obama-knew-about-ayers-past-when-they-worked-together/
UPDATE: Now Obama says he worked with Ayres, knew about his past but thought he was rehabilitated, in spite of highly publicized interviews where Ayres said he was proud of what he did and regrets nothing. Details HERE.
So lets see, first Obama said Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood, then it was a tanjential relationship to Bill O'reilly, then it was well we worked together on a board, then we find out that Ayres hired him to serve on two boards to hand out millions in misspent charity money that wnet to political activisim instead of helping kids, then its I served with Ayres but I didn't know about his past, now its ya I knew but I thought he was rehabilitated, which is also a lie because in a series of highly rtelevised interviews Ayres made it clear how proud he was of what he did and how he did not do enough. Obama lied when he said he had nothing to do with ACORN either. I can't speak for all of you folks, but I have had my fill of liars in office. - Editor
And it is a long series of these relationships
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/reality-check-ayers-was-obamas-boss-in-2001-while-he-desecrated-the-flag-and-said-he-wished-he-had-done-more-bombings/
and
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/obama%e2%80%99s-campaign-theme-of-%e2%80%9cjudgment%e2%80%9d-leaves-his-campaign-on-the-brink/
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| Think we can come up with pics of some libs shaking hands with the likes of Arafat and what not?
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A couple of the worst terrorists in the country if we go guilt by association/participation..... 
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Rumsfeld visited Saddam when that picture was taken to tell him to stop using chemical and biological weapons.
But look here's Bill!
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Should the Saudi monarchy be permitted to purchase an important equity position in some of America’s leading banks? How can Hillary be objective when the very same monarchy donated $10 million to the Clinton Library and Foundation?
Should the UAE be allowed in? How can Hillary decide fairly when Bill — and therefore herself — have been getting a reported $10 million per year from a fund that administers the investments of the Emir of Dubai, the largest component state in the UAE?
Neither Dubai nor Saudi Arabia would be permitted to contribute to Hillary’s campaign. Foreigners are not allowed to do so, precisely to avoid having potential office holders compromised by gratitude for their financial support. But these nations have used the porous ethics of the Clinton family to acquire positions of massive influence by making contributions, not to her campaign, but to her personal bank account — either through Bill or through the Library and Foundation, which the Clintons directly control. The extent of the influence their millions must buy with a family only recently, according to Hillary, in the “middle class” must be huge.
And it is for exactly this kind of situation that the Clintons should be required to divulge the extent of their involvement with foreign interests and exactly how much money their personal bank accounts and their Library/Foundation have received. (The Saudi donation to the Library and Foundation was only discovered by the New York Times when the information was inadvertently posted on the Library’s Web site. Soon after the story appeared, it was taken down. The Clintons refuse to reveal the donors to the Library or the related Foundation.) Hillary and Bill have also refused to release their income tax returns, despite the fact that Bill willingly released his when he was running for president.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,323887,00.html |
NOW THAT is participation.
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