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Oldtimer
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I really thought McCain did fairly well at first- but half way thru he turned back into Old Mr. McNasty with that evil snarl and not willing to look Obama in the eye....
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HEMPSTEAD, New York (CNN) -- A majority of debate watchers thought that Sen. Barack Obama won the third and final presidential debate, according to a national poll conducted at the end of the debate.
Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain debate face to face Wednesday night.
Fifty-eight percent of debate watchers questioned in the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll said Democrat Obama did the best job in the debate, with 31 percent saying Republican Sen. John McCain performed best.
The poll also suggested that debate watchers' favorable opinion of Obama rose during the debate, from 63 percent at the start of the debate to 66 percent at the end of the debate. The poll indicates that McCain's favorables dropped, from 51 percent to 49 percent. |
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Fifty-three percent of the uncommitted voters surveyed identified Democratic nominee Barack Obama as the winner of tonight's debate. Twenty-two percent said Republican rival John McCain won. Twenty-five percent saw the debate as a draw.
More uncommitted voters trusted Obama than McCain to make the right decisions about health care. Before the debate, sixty-one percent of uncommitted voters said that they trust Obama on the issue; after, sixty-eight percent said so. Twenty-seven percent trusted McCain to manage health care before the debate; thirty percent said so afterwards.
Before the debate, fifty-four percent thought Obama shared their values. That percentage rose to sixty-four percent after the debate. For McCain, fifty-two percent thought he shared their values before the debate, and fifty-five percent thought so afterwards.
Before the debate, fifty percent said they trusted Obama to handle a crisis; that rose to sixty-three percent afterwards. More uncommitted voters trusted McCain on this – seventy-eight percent before the debate, eighty-two percent after the debate.
But more trusted Obama than McCain to make the right decisions about the economy. Before the debate, fifty-four percent of uncommitted voters said that they trust Obama to make the right decisions about the economy; after, sixty-five percent said that. Before, thirty-eight percent trusted McCain to do so, and forty-eight percent did after the debate.
Before the debate, sixty-six percent thought Obama understands voters’ needs and problems; that rose to seventy-six percent after the debate. For McCain, thirty-six percent felt he understands voters’ needs before the debate, and forty-eight percent thought so afterwards. |
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loomixguy
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Figures lie and liars figure.
It is abundantly clear you have eaten the entire crap sandwich The One has given to you, and you want seconds.
Why not get started early? You are on the government tit, so send me and Jigs each $3500 or so, and begin to spread your wealth? Same with KooKoo, only she can send us more. Spread that wealth, then Jigs and I can lounge around all day and play on the puter, just like you! Just sit around in our drawers and never leave the house for days at a time. Why work and earn anything? Old Komrade and KooKoo and the rest will keep us in groceries and heat for the winter.
I almost wish I hadn't paid my mortgage off 17 years early. I could just coast along, after all I AM entitled to housing. KooKoo, send us some more....I may as well be driving a new Escalade...gas is getting cheaper, and, after all, it's not like I'M going to be paying for it...right? Send even more....I got three kids to send to college.....why should I pay for it.....they can go to Harvard or Yale or Princeton on everybody else's nickle. It's your patriotic duty to spread your wealth so I won't have to work and support my kids!
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Mike
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lazy ace
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fff
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Of course they poll before a debate. How else will they show the effects of the debate?
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CBS poll of undecided voters:
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 22
Obama (D) 53
Shares your values
Obama, Before the debate: 54
Obama, After the debate: 63
McCain, Before the debate: 53
McCain, After the debate: 56
Update: CNN poll of voters who watched debate
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 31
Obama (D) 58
Favorable/Unfavorable
Obama, before debate: 63/35
Obama, after debate: 66/33
McCain, before debate: 51/45
McCain, after debate: 49/49
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backhoeboogie
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Of course they poll before a debate. How else will they show the effects of the debate?
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CBS poll of undecided voters:
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 22
Obama (D) 53
Shares your values
Obama, Before the debate: 54
Obama, After the debate: 63
McCain, Before the debate: 53
McCain, After the debate: 56
Update: CNN poll of voters who watched debate
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 31
Obama (D) 58
Favorable/Unfavorable
Obama, before debate: 63/35
Obama, after debate: 66/33
McCain, before debate: 51/45
McCain, after debate: 49/49
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You did it again. You left out that "and everyone lived happily ever after" ending to this fairy tale.
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RobertMac
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Of course they poll before a debate. How else will they show the effects of the debate?
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CBS poll of undecided voters:
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 22
Obama (D) 53
Shares your values
Obama, Before the debate: 54
Obama, After the debate: 63
McCain, Before the debate: 53
McCain, After the debate: 56
Update: CNN poll of voters who watched debate
Who won the debate?
McCain (R) 31
Obama (D) 58
Favorable/Unfavorable
Obama, before debate: 63/35
Obama, after debate: 66/33
McCain, before debate: 51/45
McCain, after debate: 49/49
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Polling is like statistics, only more easily manipulated.
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I thought the best comment after the debates came from news consultant David Gergen who has been as a political consultant and presidential advisor during the administrations of 4 Presidents- Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton...He has been a critic of MCCains negative attack ads- and Karl Rove tactics saying they are tearing apart the party and don't work anymore....
When asked what does McCain do next- Gergen got a perplexed look on his fact and said "Hell if I know"....He then commented maybe to do the least amount of damage in the 19 days left- and work for unifying the Repubs and getting some congressmen elected...
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RobertMac
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I thought the best comment after the debates came from news consultant David Gergen who has been as a political consultant and presidential advisor during the administrations of 4 Presidents- Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton...He has been a critic of MCCains negative attack ads- and Karl Rove tactics saying they are tearing apart the party and don't work anymore....
When asked what does McCain do next- Gergen got a perplexed look on his fact and said "Hell if I know"....He then commented maybe to do the least amount of damage in the 19 days left- and work for unifying the Repubs and getting some congressmen elected... |
Let me get this right...when Democrats start telling Republicans their tactics aren't working, it's time for Republicans to listen to Democrats and stop???????
If the tactic is REALLY helping Democrats, they would sit there and simply smile and incourage more of the same.
Liberalism breeds ignorance!!!!
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Oldtimer
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I thought the best comment after the debates came from news consultant David Gergen who has been as a political consultant and presidential advisor during the administrations of 4 Presidents- Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton...He has been a critic of MCCains negative attack ads- and Karl Rove tactics saying they are tearing apart the party and don't work anymore....
When asked what does McCain do next- Gergen got a perplexed look on his fact and said "Hell if I know"....He then commented maybe to do the least amount of damage in the 19 days left- and work for unifying the Repubs and getting some congressmen elected... |
Let me get this right...when Democrats start telling Republicans their tactics aren't working, it's time for Republicans to listen to Democrats and stop???????
If the tactic is REALLY helping Democrats, they would sit there and simply smile and incourage more of the same.
Liberalism breeds ignorance!!!! |
After working for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan I never thought of Gergen as a Democrat- but he doesn't probably fit into your current thinking of this new neocon Bush/McCain Republicanism...
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I thought the best comment after the debates came from news consultant David Gergen who has been as a political consultant and presidential advisor during the administrations of 4 Presidents- Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton...He has been a critic of MCCains negative attack ads- and Karl Rove tactics saying they are tearing apart the party and don't work anymore....
When asked what does McCain do next- Gergen got a perplexed look on his fact and said "Hell if I know"....He then commented maybe to do the least amount of damage in the 19 days left- and work for unifying the Repubs and getting some congressmen elected... |
Let me get this right...when Democrats start telling Republicans their tactics aren't working, it's time for Republicans to listen to Democrats and stop???????
If the tactic is REALLY helping Democrats, they would sit there and simply smile and incourage more of the same.
Liberalism breeds ignorance!!!! |
Robert....so they would want you to think. When the Dems. are making an issue of it, it means it's hurting them.
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RobertMac
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I thought the best comment after the debates came from news consultant David Gergen who has been as a political consultant and presidential advisor during the administrations of 4 Presidents- Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Clinton...He has been a critic of MCCains negative attack ads- and Karl Rove tactics saying they are tearing apart the party and don't work anymore....
When asked what does McCain do next- Gergen got a perplexed look on his fact and said "Hell if I know"....He then commented maybe to do the least amount of damage in the 19 days left- and work for unifying the Repubs and getting some congressmen elected... |
Let me get this right...when Democrats start telling Republicans their tactics aren't working, it's time for Republicans to listen to Democrats and stop???????
If the tactic is REALLY helping Democrats, they would sit there and simply smile and incourage more of the same.
Liberalism breeds ignorance!!!! |
After working for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan I never thought of Gergen as a Democrat- but he doesn't probably fit into your current thinking of this new neocon Bush/McCain Republicanism... |
You fail to mention Gergen's last employer was a Democrat...and that's whose ideology he is closer to.
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