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Ben H Rancher

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1729 Location: Gorham, ME
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:21 am Post subject: Montana |
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Living here in Maine is pretty tough, I'd like some input on opportunities in Montana. We have the oldest population in the US, people are moving out of state due to a lack of jobs. Taxes are one of the highest in the US. Ever since most of the mills closed there has been little done to create an environment to bring jobs into the state. Southern Maine is known as Northern Massachusetts due to everyone leaving Mass and trying to make where they move to more like where they come from. It's pretty frustrating because the mindset in the North East is so liberal. I am loosing faith that it can be reversed, part of me really wants to just move and let these people destroy themselves with their liberal policies.
What's holding me here in my family's farm, I have started developing a customer base for my grassfed beef. I work another job that I dislike, while I try to grow my business to one day be self independent and not work for anyone. I work a job I dislike because it at least offers the flexibility to allow me to pursue other things.
Montana is one of the states that I feel is headed in the right direction, I'm curious what kind of opportunities, if any, there are for a person in my situation.
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theony Member

Joined: 17 Dec 2008 Posts: 54 Location: N MT
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I Luv Herfrds Rancher

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Montana
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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We have lost over 1/2 of both logging and mining jobs. Trying to buy land that is overpriced is difficult especially if you are trying to start something.
State has turned more into a retirement/hunting preserve then anything else.
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I Luv Herfrds Rancher

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1327 Location: Montana
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Oldtimer Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 24333 Location: Northeast Montana
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theony Member

Joined: 17 Dec 2008 Posts: 54 Location: N MT
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup, speaking of trains. The track from Plentywood to Scobey is now a storage site for old rolling stock and same for branch line out of Glendive. No wonder, Not going to be many opportunities for RR employment. Soon to be the 2 main lines and that is pretty much it.
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Ben H Rancher

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Posts: 1729 Location: Gorham, ME
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like Montana has a lot of the same problems we have, everything here seems to focus around tourism as a major industry. Our population is only about 1.2 million. I wonder how much the average pay really differs from here, we have pretty low pay in Maine. My wife has been a bank teller for a few years and makes less then $10/hr. The bank she works for was rated as the #1 Business in Maine to work for this year.
I hate to say this, but when the system crashes, these folks with their head in the sand who didn't prepare are going to wipe each other out. I just need to sit back and watch the carnage.
Are there opportunities in MT to lease land from absentee landowners and custom graze cattle? When I was looking online at properties a few years back it appeared that everything was being sold as "ranchettes".
Realistically, I guess I need to make the best of what I have here.
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Oldtimer Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 24333 Location: Northeast Montana
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Frank in West Dakota Member

Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 256
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Blkbuckaroo Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 3057 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Log mills are all closing here,think it's the same everywhere.Better sit tight.
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Silver Rancher

Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 3531 Location: BC
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Move north young man. Northern Ab, Sk, or BC all still have plenty of opportunity and pay scale is still pretty fair.
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jigs Rancher

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 6786 Location: KANSAS
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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have you tried writing a letter to Obama... this sounds like it would be right up his alley. take land from those who have it, and give it to those who want it!! you may have to form a union and get an abortion first, but it is worth a shot
think about it, you REALLY want to be neighbors with Oldtimer?? granted, the idea of knowing a guy that you can buy a verdict off of is nice, but livinig day in and day out with him???
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