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burnt Rancher

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well I know you are experienced enough to know that those who support this type of agenda have far too much invested in it to give up easily. We can expect that they will redouble their efforts to push their damn lies as far as they can.
Some do it for the satisfaction of have their misguided ideals promoted and some, Gore, for example, do it for money.
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PORKER Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4171 Location: Michigan-Florida
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: Yip YIP Ho HA HA HA |
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Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?
By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: November 20th, 2009
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (Al Gore) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka CRU) and released 61 megabytes of confidential files onto the internet.
Senator Inhofe: Well, on this thing, it is pretty serious. And since, you know, Barabara Boxer is the Chairman and I’m the Ranking Member on Environment and Public Works, if nothing happens in the next seven days when we go back into session a week from today that would change this situation, I will call for an investigation. ‘Cause this thing is serious, you think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with.
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RobertMac Rancher

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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: Re: Yip YIP Ho HA HA HA |
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Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of 'Anthropogenic Global Warming'?
By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: November 20th, 2009
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (Al Gore) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka CRU) and released 61 megabytes of confidential files onto the internet.
Senator Inhofe: Well, on this thing, it is pretty serious. And since, you know, Barabara Boxer is the Chairman and I’m the Ranking Member on Environment and Public Works, if nothing happens in the next seven days when we go back into session a week from today that would change this situation, I will call for an investigation. ‘Cause this thing is serious, you think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with. |
Inhofe better call the MSM and let them know to cover an investigation or they will continue to ignore this!
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burnt Rancher

Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 4250 Location: Mid-western Ontario
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PORKER Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4171 Location: Michigan-Florida
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: criminals 1 |
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Analysis: ‘Climategate’ – The fix is in
(Jewish World Review) –
By Robert Tracinski:
In early October, I linked to a breaking story about evidence of corruption in the basic temperature records maintained by key scientific advocates of the theory of man-made global warming. Global warming "skeptics" had unearthed evidence that scientists at the Climatic Research Unit at Britain's University of East Anglia had cherry-picked data to manufacture a "hockey stick" graph showing a dramatic—but illusory—runaway warming trend in the late 20th century.
But now newer and much broader evidence has emerged that breaks this scandal wide open. Pundits have already named it "Climategate."
A hacker—or more likely a disillusioned insider—has gathered thousands of e-mails and data from the CRU and made them available on the Web. Officials at the CRU have verified the breach of their system and acknowledged that the e-mails appear to be genuine.
The CRU has already called in the police to investigate the hacker, but those resources are misdirected. The cops should be investigating the CRU itself.
The e-mails show, among many other things, private admissions of doubt or scientific weakness in the global warming theory. In acknowledging that global temperatures have actually declined for the past decade, one scientist asks, "where the heck is global warming?... The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't." They still can't account for it; see a new article in Der Spiegel: "Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out." I don't know where these people got their scientific education, but where I come from, if your theory can't predict or explain the observed facts, it's wrong.
In another e-mail, a prominent global warming alarmist admits to using a statistical "trick" to "hide the decline" in temperatures. The "trick" consists of selectively mixing two different kinds of data—temperature "proxies" from tree rings and actual thermometer measurements—in a way designed to produce a graph of global temperatures that ends the way the global warming establishment wants it to: with an upward "hockey stick" slope.
Confirming the earlier scandal about cherry-picked data, the e-mails show CRU scientists conspiring to evade legal requests under the Freedom of Information Act for their underlying data. It's a basic rule of science that you don't just get to report your results and ask other people to take you on faith. You also have to report your data and your specific method of analysis, so that others can check it and, yes, even criticize it. Yet that is precisely what the CRU scientists have refused.
But what stands out most in this cache of e-mails is extensive evidence of the hijacking of "peer review" to enforce global warming dogma. Peer review is the practice of subjecting scientific papers to review by other scientists with relevant expertise before they are published in professional journals. The idea is to weed out research with obvious flaws or weak arguments, but there is a clear danger that such a process will simply reinforce groupthink. If it is corrupted, peer review can be a mechanism for an entrenched establishment to exclude legitimate challenges by simply refusing to give critics a hearing.
And that is precisely what we find in this case.
In response to an article challenging global warming that was published in the journal Climate Research, CRU head Phil Jones complains that the journal needs to "rid themselves of this troublesome editor." Pennsylvania State University professor Michael Mann replies:
I think we have to stop considering Climate Research as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.
Note the circular logic. Skepticism about global warming is wrong because it is not supported by scientific articles in "legitimate peer-reviewed journals." But if a journal actually publishes such an article, then it is by definition not "legitimate."
You can also see from these e-mails the panic among top global warming alarmists at any dissent appearing in the scientific literature. When another article by a skeptic was published in Geophysical Research Letters, Mann complains, "It's one thing to lose Climate Research. We can't afford to lose GRL." Another CRU scientist, Tom Wigley, suggests that they target another troublesome editor: "If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU [American Geophysical Union] channels to get him ousted." That's exactly what they did, and a later e-mail boasts that "The GRL leak may have been plugged up now with new editorial leadership there."
Not content to block out all dissent from scientific journals, the CRU scientists also conspired to secure friendly reviewers who could be counted on to rubber-stamp their own work. Phil Jones suggests such a list to Kevin Trenberth, with the assurance that "All of them know the sorts of things to say�without any prompting."
So it's no surprise when another e-mail refers to an attempt to keep inconvenient scientific findings out of a UN report: "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. K and I will keep them out somehow—even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!" Think of all of this the next time you hear someone invoke the authority of peer review—or of the UN's IPCC reports—as backing for claims about global warming.
This scandal goes beyond scientific journals and into other media used to promote the global warming dogma. For example, RealClimate.org has been billed as an objective website at which global warming activists and skeptics can engage in an impartial debate. But in the CRU e-mails, the global warming establishment boasts that RealClimate is in their pocket.
I wanted you guys to know that you're free to use RC in any way you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about what comments we screen through�. We can hold comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you'd like us to include.
Think of RC as a resource that is at your disposal�. We'll use our best discretion to make sure the skeptics don't get to use the RC comments as a megaphone.
And anyone doubting that the mainstream media is in on it, too, should check out New York Times reporter Andrew Revkin's toadying apologia for the CRU e-mails, masquerading as a news report.
The picture that emerges is simple. In any discussion of global warming, either in the scientific literature or in the mainstream media, the outcome is always predetermined. Just as the temperature graphs produced by the CRU are always tricked out to show an upward-sloping "hockey stick," every discussion of global warming has to conclude that the warming is happening and that humans are responsible. And any data or scientific paper that tends to disprove that conclusion is smeared as "unscientific" precisely because it threatens the established dogma.
For more than a decade, we've been told that there is a scientific "consensus" that humans are causing global warming, that "the debate is over" and all "legitimate" scientists acknowledge the truth of global warming. Now we know what this "consensus" really means. What it means is: the fix is in.
This is an enormous case of organized scientific fraud, but it is not just scientific fraud. It is also a criminal act. Suborned by billions of taxpayer dollars devoted to climate research, dozens of prominent scientists have established a criminal racket in which they seek government money—Phil Jones has raked in a total of �13.7 million, about $25 million, in grants from the British government—which they use to falsify data and defraud the taxpayers. It's the most insidious kind of fraud: a fraud in which the culprits are lauded as public heroes. Judging from this cache of e-mails, they even manage to tell themselves that their manipulation of the data is a noble lie intended to protect a bigger truth and prevent it from being "confused" by inconvenient facts and uncontrolled criticism.
The damage here goes far beyond the loss of a few billions of taxpayer dollars on bogus scientific research. The real cost of this scam is the trillions of dollars of wealth that will be destroyed if a fraudulent theory is used to justify legislation that starves the global economy of its cheapest and most abundant sources of energy.
This is the scandal of the century. It needs to be thoroughly investigated—and the culprits need to be brought to justice.
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PORKER Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4171 Location: Michigan-Florida
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: Bring some Justice |
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There's a strong stench of news engineering , This is an enormous case of organized scientific fraud! They are criminals !!
People in the know say;
Has anyone heard from the chief propagandist, AlGore? I think he's hiding in an underground shelter on his massive property...or who knows, maybe he has an air-conditioned 'secret safe room' in his mansion. You know, the home that uses MORE electricity in one month than an entire village uses in one year! Mr. 'Do as I say, NOT as I do!'
So...will he be required to return the royalties from his lying video?? Will he be required to close down his quack carbon credit companies?? He was/is worse than any snake oil salesman in the past!!!
Time for the good folks with COMMON SENSE to say "I told you so" as we have tried to refute the obvious falsehoods that were being promoted by these unscrupulous 'scientists' - they should all be barred from any faculty or scientific publication!! SCIENCE, MY FOOT!
NOW we can understand why AlGore refused to debate anyone on his 'inconvenient truth' BECAUSE he KNEW it wasn't based on truth at all!
- Cape Conservative, Cape Cod US,
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PORKER Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 4171 Location: Michigan-Florida
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: JUST A CRIME |
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http://economycollapse.blogspot.com/2009/11/alex-jones-on-climategate-hoax-of-all_25.html link to
video report by news service that this scandal as one of the biggest hoaxes and financial frauds in the history of mankind. He says that it appears to be a global 'Ponzi scheme' which allowed bankers to profit from bogus carbon taxes for years. THIS WOULD HAVE HURT RANCHING AND FARMING BIG TIME WITH CAP AND TRADE!
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RobertMac Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 3725 Location: Mississippi, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Point of interest to cattle producers...these are the same methods used to demonize cholesterol and saturated animal fats.
Cherry pick data to put forth a flawed theory,
promote the flawed theory to the exclusion of contradictory evidence by discrediting the presenters of the evidence,
get the power of news media and government to promote the flawed theory until it is accepted as unquestioned fact(the debate is over).
If dieticians were correct with the current diet recommendations, obesity and chronic health problems would have decreased instead of increased.
Obviously, science can be bought!!!
As my 7th grade history teacher taught me...question everything!!!
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PORKER Rancher

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: Long Winter |
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The North pole Ice Sheet is thicker than Expected No Global Warming There.
Germany
The research aircraft Polar 5 “ended today in Canada’s recent Arctic expedition. During the flight, researchers have measured the current Eisstärke measured at the North Pole, and in areas that have never before been overflown. Result: The sea-ice in the surveyed areas is apparently thicker than the researchers had suspected.
Normally, ice is newly formed after two years, over two meters thick. “Here were Eisdicken up to four meters,” said a spokesman of Bremerhaven’s Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, Bremerhaven, Germany. For scientists, this result is still in contradiction to the warming of the seawater.
It's Getting Colder www.iceagenow.com
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PORKER Rancher

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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: Climategate, it's a Scheme |
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http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573/Climate-change-fraud-
Comment;
Climate change is a fraud and You can bet on one thing:
Carbon Taxes & Trading Offsets is yet another scam to take money off regular people.
Australia's Parliament defeats global warming bill
2 Dec 09 - Australia's Parliament defeated legislation to set up a
greenhouse gas emissions trading system on Wednesday. The Senate's
41-33 vote followed a tumultuous debate in which the conservative main
opposition party dramatically dumped its leader. Three cheers for
Australia's Senate!
Global Cooling Started
http://www.iceagenow.com/Geology_professor_forecasts_abrupt_cooling.htm
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PORKER Rancher

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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: OUCH ! |
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http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/03/climate-science-gore-intelligent-technology-sutton.html
Al Gore thought he might ride his global warming crusade back toward the White House. If you saw his movie, which opened showing cattle on his farm, you start to understand how shallow this is.
The United Nations says that cattle, farting and belching methane, create more global warming than all the SUVs in the world.
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PORKER Rancher

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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: Ba Humbug! Climategate???????? |
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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/17835
Quote;No warming for about 12 years. Recent weather so cold as to freeze the monkeys off their pole. Bad weather everywhere, and 21cm snow in Denmark. How inconvenient for Summit folks! Is Gore coming around to the possibility that there is no warming, after over a decade of cooling? Doubt it – he’s still got plenty of cash to milk from his sacred cow!
Global Warming Carbon Credits
ANY TAKERS ? AL needs Cash
http://www.aei.org/article/101395 AL read this!
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