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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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OH I didn't think at all that you meant she over rides. And your right, they do all have different styles.
TP....will walk n trot the pattern a couple times. She takes him out and long trots him thru the woods, and has been sprintin him the last few months. Soon as she stops he's back to a dead head lil horse.
Cash....it's work to keep him slow workin cuz he loves to run. She won't give him any speed at all when she's slow workin him. Then she might make one run here at home on him....then you might as well forget slow work, cuz he's ready to RUN. Take him away from the barrels, and he'll walk, trot, lope and do whatever you ask. He just knows what his job is when it comes to barrels. I don't concider him a HOT horse. He doesn't get all ancy goin in the ally way. He walks nice n calm. Even when she runs him the second time, he walks, till she tells him go.
Tank.....is a work in progress haha. Gotta fix this leapin thing. Away from the barrels, he's good in all gaits. But I think because he's picked up the barrels so quickly he's gonna be one that she just needs to keep legged up. Do minimal slow work on, and haul him down the road.
They all have different styles turning the barrels too. I have no clue how she can think that fast, who am I on, what I need to do etc. But she does it. LOL Maybe it's cuz her brain ain't old like mine. I barely can remember why I got up and went from one room to another sometimes. 
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Faster horses
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Have you got Tank on Progressive Nutrition?
That would take some of the HOT away.
Do not give him oats. He could have a fire in his gut from
the oats. Have you had him checked for ulcers?
Again that could cause some of his problems.
The PN really makes their brain more calm and allows
them to think; as opposed to oats, corn or barley which
upsets their gut. There is no grain in PN products.
The contain soybean and amino acids that promote health
physically and mentally. Dave has all his horses on it now
and he was happy with what he fed before. They looked good,
but they didn't ride nearly as good as they do now.
FWIW. I sure wouldn't feed him any grain.
Horses that act good outside of the arena and don't do as good
inside, tells me there is something going on with their gut.
They get anxious, etc.
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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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| Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| As of right now everything is turned out on grass. We've been lucky and got just enuff showers here and there to keep things goin.
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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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Ok, last night took Lil Lilly to the Cowboy Church. They have open arena, with barrel set up to practice with on Thursday nights.
She worked TP, and Cash. Then got on Tank. Didn't work him on the barrels at all. She got down at the far end of the arena, and started tryin to lope circles. He wanted to leap. So she got him in a small enuff circle lopin him that he couldn't really do it, then gradually widened her circles out. She loped him until he was tired. By tired I mean tired. I've always heard the saying, "A good horse is a tired horse" and I think this applies to Tank. From what I saw last night. He just has it in his head that he can run. But when really put to work, she also had his head tipped to the outside of the circle, really worked his mind too, he has way too much energy when fresh, and doesn't direct that energy in a good way. Brought him home. Left him tied. She got on him this mornin, and done more circles. He tried the leap thing once when she first started circles. But he quickly realized he wasn't gonna get away with it. She worked him for a good 20 minutes just lopin circles each direction. Then unsaddled him, rinsed him off, and turned him out. He'll get another session of this same exercise this evenin.
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Mrs Leanin' H
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| the_jersey_lilly_2000 wrote: |
Ok, last night took Lil Lilly to the Cowboy Church. They have open arena, with barrel set up to practice with on Thursday nights.
She worked TP, and Cash. Then got on Tank. Didn't work him on the barrels at all. She got down at the far end of the arena, and started tryin to lope circles. He wanted to leap. So she got him in a small enuff circle lopin him that he couldn't really do it, then gradually widened her circles out. She loped him until he was tired. By tired I mean tired. I've always heard the saying, "A good horse is a tired horse" and I think this applies to Tank. From what I saw last night. He just has it in his head that he can run. But when really put to work, she also had his head tipped to the outside of the circle, really worked his mind too, he has way too much energy when fresh, and doesn't direct that energy in a good way. Brought him home. Left him tied. She got on him this mornin, and done more circles. He tried the leap thing once when she first started circles. But he quickly realized he wasn't gonna get away with it. She worked him for a good 20 minutes just lopin circles each direction. Then unsaddled him, rinsed him off, and turned him out. He'll get another session of this same exercise this evenin. |
Sounds like she might have found the trick. I have been wondering about two things....
One - could she be somehow telling him to go and go now by the way she is sitting? Maybe working 3 horses, her body language could work well for the other two, but be telling Tank something different.
And two - Does she use the same saddle on all 3? Maybe it doesn't fit him just right and that could distort her cues or even cause him pain at a trot?
I know I have had problems with both of these and when fixed, found I had a different horse under me. Good Luck!
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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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| Mrs Leanin' H wrote: |
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Ok, last night took Lil Lilly to the Cowboy Church. They have open arena, with barrel set up to practice with on Thursday nights.
She worked TP, and Cash. Then got on Tank. Didn't work him on the barrels at all. She got down at the far end of the arena, and started tryin to lope circles. He wanted to leap. So she got him in a small enuff circle lopin him that he couldn't really do it, then gradually widened her circles out. She loped him until he was tired. By tired I mean tired. I've always heard the saying, "A good horse is a tired horse" and I think this applies to Tank. From what I saw last night. He just has it in his head that he can run. But when really put to work, she also had his head tipped to the outside of the circle, really worked his mind too, he has way too much energy when fresh, and doesn't direct that energy in a good way. Brought him home. Left him tied. She got on him this mornin, and done more circles. He tried the leap thing once when she first started circles. But he quickly realized he wasn't gonna get away with it. She worked him for a good 20 minutes just lopin circles each direction. Then unsaddled him, rinsed him off, and turned him out. He'll get another session of this same exercise this evenin. |
Sounds like she might have found the trick. I have been wondering about two things....
One - could she be somehow telling him to go and go now by the way she is sitting? Maybe working 3 horses, her body language could work well for the other two, but be telling Tank something different.
And two - Does she use the same saddle on all 3? Maybe it doesn't fit him just right and that could distort her cues or even cause him pain at a trot?
I know I have had problems with both of these and when fixed, found I had a different horse under me. Good Luck! |
He was doin it even when she was sittin strait up, at a trot. Not even in the "go" position. She's been workin him like this 2 to 3 times a week. Nothin but lopin circles until he's good n wore out. He hasn't tried to leap now at all in a couple weeks here at home. After she's done lopin circles she's been takin him for long walks in the woods as a cool down.
She has three saddles. When he started doin this, she rode him in all three to see if it was the saddle, made no difference which one she had on him he still done it. I really do think that he just loved the idea of runnin so much that he didn't wanna do slow work. Maybe he'd never had the chance to run before...I don't know. He's a ropin horse...so you'd think he had. But who knows what goes on in a horses life before you get it.
Somethin else she done, is take him back to the O ring snaffle. Not for runnin purposes, but for trainin and ridin here at home, and when it's just practice somewhere. When she makes a run, she puts the competition bit back in his mouth.
Her next run is Sept 13, we'll see how he does then. But so far so good. Her last run on him was August 22, and she said he did a real minor kinda leap as she was comin up the alley. I didn't see it, because I was workin the announcers booth in the box above the run in.  But she said it wasn't bad at all, more like he was hoppin over somethin than leapin.
Thanks for your thoughts on this tho. I'm always interested in things other people have to say. Never know when a fresh mind or a new pair of eyes might see somethin we aren't seein.
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