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Shaft
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Sandy, I gotta tell you it just makes my head hurt trying to rationalize two diametrically opposed concepts without having resort to the use of the word hypocrite. Ouch!
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| Wide open borders; Packers for - R-CALF against. |
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| We're all in the same boat, and COOL partnered with an aggressive marketing campaign seems to me the best way to head off the flood of South American beef that the triumvirate of the NCBA/USDA/Packers are intent on bringing to our shores. |
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burnt
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Sandhusker
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Sandy, I gotta tell you it just makes my head hurt trying to rationalize two diametrically opposed concepts without having resort to the use of the word hypocrite. Ouch!
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| Wide open borders; Packers for - R-CALF against. |
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| We're all in the same boat, and COOL partnered with an aggressive marketing campaign seems to me the best way to head off the flood of South American beef that the triumvirate of the NCBA/USDA/Packers are intent on bringing to our shores. |
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There is a contradiction in those statements?
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Sandhusker
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burnt
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MoGal
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COOL isn't discounting your cattle.......... you're still bombarding us with imported beef. In 2008, Canada exported 300,000 metric tonnes per year while you import back 97,000 metric tonnes............ beef imports are putting the American beef producer at a terrible disadvantage.
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| But Canada remains the largest supplier of grain-fed beef to the U.S., exporting over 300,000 tonnes per year, BIC said Friday. |
I presume that is metric tonnes as well..... here's the link:
http://www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/220110/canada___beef_exporters_must_adapt_to_new_rules_on_origin_.aspx
Yet, its okay to market beef as Canadian only here in the US?? and you all are complaining because Americans want USA only products?
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here's the link for this full article: http://www.ers.usda.gov/news/bsecoverage.htm
Total U.S. beef consumption:
2002: 27.9 billion pounds
2003: 27.0 billion pounds
2004: 27.8 billion pounds
2005: 27.8 billion pounds
2006: 28.0 billion pounds
2007: 28.1 billion pounds
2008: 27.3 billion pounds
U.S. beef production (commercial carcass weight):
2002: 27.09 billion pounds
2003: 26.24 billion pounds
2004: 24.55 billion pounds
2005: 24.68 billion pounds
2006: 26.15 billion pounds
2007: 26.42 billion pounds
2008: 26.56 billion pounds
U.S. beef exports (commercial carcass weight and value):
2002: 2.447 billion pounds, $2.629 billion
2003: 2.518 billion pounds, $3.186 billion
2004: 460 million pounds, $631 million
2005: 697 million pounds, $1.031 billion
2006: 1.144 billion pounds, $1.616 billion
2007: 1.431 billion pounds, $2.175 billion
2008: 1.888 billion pounds, $2.978 billion
I think this summed it up well what is happening to the american beef producer (with a graph as well) however its from Mr. Thornsberry
http://www.agweb.com/beeftoday/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?PID=2c9859cd-62e3-4137-9f04-a6667f121f16
There's a lot of nations (and their peoples) who have this "entitlement attitude"............ they're entitled to export everything they want to the USA and the American people are just supposed to shut up and take it. .................. this is one American who will not and I'm not the only one who feels that way about it............ If these congressional leaders don't start protecting the interests of their constituents and the sovereignty of this country, they will be voted out.
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burnt
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Bill
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COOL isn't discounting your cattle.......... you're still bombarding us with imported beef. In 2008, Canada exported 300,000 metric tonnes per year while you import back 97,000 metric tonnes............ beef imports are putting the American beef producer at a terrible disadvantage.
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| But Canada remains the largest supplier of grain-fed beef to the U.S., exporting over 300,000 tonnes per year, BIC said Friday. |
I presume that is metric tonnes as well..... here's the link:
http://www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/220110/canada___beef_exporters_must_adapt_to_new_rules_on_origin_.aspx
Yet, its okay to market beef as Canadian only here in the US?? and you all are complaining because Americans want USA only products?
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here's the link for this full article: http://www.ers.usda.gov/news/bsecoverage.htm
Total U.S. beef consumption:
2002: 27.9 billion pounds
2003: 27.0 billion pounds
2004: 27.8 billion pounds
2005: 27.8 billion pounds
2006: 28.0 billion pounds
2007: 28.1 billion pounds
2008: 27.3 billion pounds
U.S. beef production (commercial carcass weight):
2002: 27.09 billion pounds
2003: 26.24 billion pounds
2004: 24.55 billion pounds
2005: 24.68 billion pounds
2006: 26.15 billion pounds
2007: 26.42 billion pounds
2008: 26.56 billion pounds
U.S. beef exports (commercial carcass weight and value):
2002: 2.447 billion pounds, $2.629 billion
2003: 2.518 billion pounds, $3.186 billion
2004: 460 million pounds, $631 million
2005: 697 million pounds, $1.031 billion
2006: 1.144 billion pounds, $1.616 billion
2007: 1.431 billion pounds, $2.175 billion
2008: 1.888 billion pounds, $2.978 billion
I think this summed it up well what is happening to the american beef producer (with a graph as well) however its from Mr. Thornsberry
http://www.agweb.com/beeftoday/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?PID=2c9859cd-62e3-4137-9f04-a6667f121f16
There's a lot of nations (and their peoples) who have this "entitlement attitude"............ they're entitled to export everything they want to the USA and the American people are just supposed to shut up and take it. .................. this is one American who will not and I'm not the only one who feels that way about it............ If these congressional leaders don't start protecting the interests of their constituents and the sovereignty of this country, they will be voted out. |
Is buying US product the reason hundreds of millions beat a path to WalMart? Although some may say otherwise I think the majority of their constituents are already speaking with their wallets.
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burnt
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| MoGal wrote: |
COOL isn't discounting your cattle.......... you're still bombarding us with imported beef. In 2008, Canada exported 300,000 metric tonnes per year while you import back 97,000 metric tonnes............ beef imports are putting the American beef producer at a terrible disadvantage.
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| But Canada remains the largest supplier of grain-fed beef to the U.S., exporting over 300,000 tonnes per year, BIC said Friday. |
I presume that is metric tonnes as well..... here's the link:
http://www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/220110/canada___beef_exporters_must_adapt_to_new_rules_on_origin_.aspx
Yet, its okay to market beef as Canadian only here in the US?? and you all are complaining because Americans want USA only products?
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here's the link for this full article: http://www.ers.usda.gov/news/bsecoverage.htm
Total U.S. beef consumption:
2002: 27.9 billion pounds
2003: 27.0 billion pounds
2004: 27.8 billion pounds
2005: 27.8 billion pounds
2006: 28.0 billion pounds
2007: 28.1 billion pounds
2008: 27.3 billion pounds
U.S. beef production (commercial carcass weight):
2002: 27.09 billion pounds
2003: 26.24 billion pounds
2004: 24.55 billion pounds
2005: 24.68 billion pounds
2006: 26.15 billion pounds
2007: 26.42 billion pounds
2008: 26.56 billion pounds
U.S. beef exports (commercial carcass weight and value):
2002: 2.447 billion pounds, $2.629 billion
2003: 2.518 billion pounds, $3.186 billion
2004: 460 million pounds, $631 million
2005: 697 million pounds, $1.031 billion
2006: 1.144 billion pounds, $1.616 billion
2007: 1.431 billion pounds, $2.175 billion
2008: 1.888 billion pounds, $2.978 billion
I think this summed it up well what is happening to the american beef producer (with a graph as well) however its from Mr. Thornsberry
http://www.agweb.com/beeftoday/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?PID=2c9859cd-62e3-4137-9f04-a6667f121f16
There's a lot of nations (and their peoples) who have this "entitlement attitude"............ they're entitled to export everything they want to the USA and the American people are just supposed to shut up and take it. .................. this is one American who will not and I'm not the only one who feels that way about it............ If these congressional leaders don't start protecting the interests of their constituents and the sovereignty of this country, they will be voted out. |
Is buying US product the reason hundreds of millions beat a path to WalMart? Although some may say otherwise I think the majority of their constituents are already speaking with their wallets. |
Bingo. US shoppers reportedly spend almost 1 billion dollars per day at Walmart. Most of which goes directly to China. Which is directly contributing to the national debt . . .yet she says that Americans want to buy domestic!! 
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Sandhusker
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| Shopping at Walmart as opposed to Target, Alco, Gibson's ect... isn't a statement on the acceptance of foreign goods as the very same imported goods are in Walmart's competitor's as well. The reason one buys, say, a Chinese manufactured fishing reel or toaster at Walmart is because there are no American made ones at any other store. For the most part, we don't have the choice to buy the Chinese good at Walmart or the US good at Target - the only choice is where to buy the Chinese product because the US made product doesn't exist any more.
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