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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Can You Trust Yota's Fix? Reply with quote

Yota seems to imagine that they now have the "fix" for their line of rice burners that accelerate uncontrollably. I was reading today that the incident that finally brought Yota to the drawing board was a crash that killed 4, the driver of the Yota being an off-duty California Highway patrol officer (CHiPpy). They even had his 911 call on tape, up until the crash.

If an experienced Chippy couldn't stop or regain control of the vehicle, what happened? I have been reading that braking did NOTHING to slow these Yota's down.....and that is what worries me. If the brakes failed to effectively slow the car down, as brakes SHOULD do, unless you are towing 30,000 pounds, Yota has bigger problems, IMO. Hell, my buddy's old 64 Ford would powerbrake to beat the band. Short of popping the car in neutral or shutting the ignition off (and losing steering AND braking ability), what are folks to do?

I don't think we have even begun to hear the end of this story. And if I were unfortunate enough to own one of these Japanese Joys, it would find a new home, ASAP.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure am glad I got a Fix or Repair Daily truck then a little homicidal killing machine car. Laughing

How you can screw up an accelerator pedal, after all this time, I don't know. But the fact that you can't even blow the brakes out trying to stop it makes me thing something is up in the programming of the computer control module.

Maybe the Japs were trying to design 'Kit' from Knight Rider. Only, their vehicles have decided they don't like their Knight Riders. Shocked


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposedly they went from a linkage and relay system to a full on computer controlled throttle system. I cant see how changing the gas peddle will fix a rougue computer.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What cars and what year, I have one.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, the "fix" is rectangular shaped block that appears to be 1/2-1" thick and is simply attached to the back of the gas pedal. Toyota says it's a 1/2 hour repair job.

They also stated that if your Toyota gas pedal should behave uncontrollably, place the transmission in neutral and tunr the ignition off.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liveoak wrote:
Apparently, the "fix" is rectangular shaped block that appears to be 1/2-1" thick and is simply attached to the back of the gas pedal. Toyota says it's a 1/2 hour repair job.

They also stated that if your Toyota gas pedal should behave uncontrollably, place the transmission in neutral and tunr the ignition off.


Then you lose steering and braking ability. SOMETHING has to be malfunctioning in the computer/electronics.

This ain't over yet.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldblood wrote:
What cars and what year, I have one.


Help Kola out and google Toyota recall. That should give you the complete list. Most are late model, but some go back to 2005 models through the current production year.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loomixguy wrote:
Liveoak wrote:
Apparently, the "fix" is rectangular shaped block that appears to be 1/2-1" thick and is simply attached to the back of the gas pedal. Toyota says it's a 1/2 hour repair job.

They also stated that if your Toyota gas pedal should behave uncontrollably, place the transmission in neutral and tunr the ignition off.


Then you lose steering and braking ability. SOMETHING has to be malfunctioning in the computer/electronics.

This ain't over yet.


Yep, heard last night that there may be a connection to the electrical system.

Now their having reported problems with the brakes on the Toyota Prius!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liveoak wrote:
loomixguy wrote:
Liveoak wrote:
Apparently, the "fix" is rectangular shaped block that appears to be 1/2-1" thick and is simply attached to the back of the gas pedal. Toyota says it's a 1/2 hour repair job.

They also stated that if your Toyota gas pedal should behave uncontrollably, place the transmission in neutral and tunr the ignition off.


Then you lose steering and braking ability. SOMETHING has to be malfunctioning in the computer/electronics.

This ain't over yet.


Yep, heard last night that there may be a connection to the electrical system.

Now their having reported problems with the brakes on the Toyota Prius!


Problems with the Prius here AND in the land of the rising sun. Go figure.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Toyota seems to have run into is a problem with the company in Elkhart, IN that made their drive-by-wire system. Basically the gas pedal is a rheostat instead of an actual cable. The rheostat sends the position of the gas pedal to the computer. Most modern vehicles use this system. The company in Indiana also makes the same type of part for several other brands of vehicles made in the US. I guess they haven't had a problem with the vehicles they make overseas, since those gas pedal assemblies are sourced elsewhere.

Funny thing is, Toyota used to be a Japanese company with cars made in Japan. Now most of their vehicles are made here in the US and my Dodge truck is made in Mexico, with parts from Canada Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rheostat explanation helps explain then the use of that small metal piece being inserted into the back of the gas pedal as a fix.

I noticed that my Dodge was made in Mexico too = cheaper labor? Whereas Toyota wanted to build here (create a presence) to gain immediate market share.


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