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Bullhauler
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jigs wrote:
I rarely stop by this forum, but man, after seeing Oldtimer get put in his place, I might be hanging out here a bit more often.....



when the world says "ugly American" they are talking about your type OT.


Well jigs you would be ugly no matter what country you were from.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Dates Reply with quote

We are a weekly.
The March 11 date was added by whatever online news service picked up our article.
The story came out on Mar. 9 - we publish every Tuesday.

As far as the CFIA, from where I stand, here's my analysis:

It was just a bad PR move. BSE is still a federally reported disease, like rabies, like scrapie. But press releases aren't issued when a new case of rabies is discovered.

So I assume (this is my opinion only) that the CFIA decided to start treating BSE the same as every other federally reportable disease, as a move to normalize public perception toward it –a 'business as usual' type of move.

The mistake is that they have underestimated the public and political interest in the topic and the public, really, are the ones to indicate whether or not it's time to normalize reaction to something because they are the ones who react.

It was a bad decision, probably by people who don't comprehend issues such as public relations, the middle mind and so forth.

I absolutely do not believe it has anything to do with trying to "hide it" – but as a journalist, I want information of interest to my readers immediately, not when a government bureaucrat decides to update a website.

Sheri
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sheri-- and that is what I am wondering will happen when the consumer groups and their advocate publications get hold of it Say what?

Especially now- when there is such an uproar over the Packers getting caught selling antibiotic fed chickens and steroid produced milk as "natural" and all the meat/food recalls because of tainted products- and false labeling...

Big drive across the country for "organic" and "natural" and truth in labeling laws- besides consumers demanding that the government hold producers/packers feet to the fire on being open and honest with this stuff...

I had breakfast the other morning with a couple of railroaders- that are far from the image of being greeny weenies...During the conversation- one brought it up to the restaurant owner that they would like to see more organic and natural on the menu- in this case asking him why he didn't serve range raised eggs...They both said they pay way extra at the store to get eggs that are certified they are not from caged chickens or ones fed antibiotics- and would be willing to pay more at the restaurant if it was offered- and they thought it would bring in more customers (ones wife is in the medical field- and he said he knew several of them would be interested)...The owner seemed very interested- and said he would look into it...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Sheri, I expect that you will keep us informed of every rabies case as well because it is much more common than BSE and much more dangerous in general to the public?

By the way, have you caught on yet to what just happened to you if a rcalfer tells you "thank you"?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's with the new policy? They don't tell you unless you ask?


Nope, nothing quite that sinister. The CFIA announced in August 2009 that they would no longer be issuing press releases to all and sundry every time another animal tested positive for BSE. Instead, what they do is update their website monthly as well as keeping industry contacts informed.

Matthew 7:7-8

Sheri was not aware of the change in policy, so her outrage was a wee bit late, but nevertheless sincere.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

burnt wrote:


By the way, have you caught on yet to what just happened to you if a rcalfer tells you "thank you"?


She is the only "unbiased" media person (not bought out by the AMI-CCA- ABP- NCBA-SSGA- CCIA- USDA -Tyson/Swift/etal and about 10 other multinational corporate influenced groups) that attended and has ACTUALLY talked to some R-CALF folks at their convention- and found out that they put on their pants the same way- are in much the same boat- and essentially want the same thing as Canadian producers.....

But I have to credit the lady-- she's past it being a Canadian producer- against a US producer battle-- and sees the real story-- that it is the multinational corporations that are bending us both (cattle producers of both countries) over (without vaseline)-- and have eyes far beyond our arguing/differences- and are having a hayday sticking it deeper any chance they get.....
And without some joint agreement on things like M-COOL- which without it leaves them the ability to import whatever from wherever- and Packer ownership of feeder/fat cattle gives them the ability to use currency values and the laws of both nations- like CWB- against each other-- while just bringing in more from South America or wherever its cheaper...

burnt- I read daily your Canadian Agri-ville- and much of the movement that is now taking place with the producer sponsored "Rallys" thruout your country-- come about because of the same reasons R-CALF exists and prospers ....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be that someone somewhere finally decided that issuing press releases accomplishes nothing but furthering the demise of the Canadian cattle producer.

I can tell you very honestly that the first thing that popped into my head when I read this was "F*&^ it, I've had enough. Call the trucks." I'm so sick of bad news that words can't describe it. Over the past couple of weeks there were even a few rumbles that markets might improve, and maybe just maybe something good would happen for a change. But no, that just couldn't happen. Same as every time things started to look up since 2003, there's always something to shut it all down again. If we ever got good news, we wouldn't know what to do with it.

Every time this headline pops up in the paper, more people say the same thing. "Call the trucks." There are less cattle farms in this country than ever before in history, and there are more people leaving every day. One more kick in the ass after another, and you just say enough is enough.

Besides, what does a headline about a subject that the general public has gotten past accomplish? And as much as flounder won't accept it, that's the truth. The public has gotten past the issue, and is worried about far more urgent matters, like keeping their homes, and their jobs. It's old news. Deal with it. Even when they did issue press releases lately, they were lucky if the papers picked them up, and if they did they were buried somewhere in the back.

The information is available for anyone who wants to read it. That's a long way from the triple S policy we know exists to our south. Deal with it.

Just like we have to deal with the results of all this unnecessary abuse.

End of rant.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldtimer wrote:
burnt wrote:


By the way, have you caught on yet to what just happened to you if a rcalfer tells you "thank you"?


She is the only "unbiased" media person (not bought out by the AMI-CCA- ABP- NCBA-SSGA- CCIA- USDA -Tyson/Swift/etal and about 10 other multinational corporate influenced groups) that attended and has ACTUALLY talked to some R-CALF folks at their convention- and found out that they put on their pants the same way- are in much the same boat- and essentially want the same thing as Canadian producers.....

But I have to credit the lady-- she's past it being a Canadian producer- against a US producer battle-- and sees the real story-- that it is the multinational corporations that are bending us both (cattle producers of both countries) over (without vaseline)-- and have eyes far beyond our arguing/differences- and are having a hayday sticking it deeper any chance they get.....
And without some joint agreement on things like M-COOL- which without it leaves them the ability to import whatever from wherever- and Packer ownership of feeder/fat cattle gives them the ability to use currency values and the laws of both nations- like CWB- against each other-- while just bringing in more from South America or wherever its cheaper...

burnt- I read daily your Canadian Agri-ville- and much of the movement that is now taking place with the producer sponsored "Rallys" thruout your country-- come about because of the same reasons R-CALF exists and prospers ....


Figured I could smoke you out with that one ot. Smile

It's just that some of us are not naive about rcalf's motives.

And trust me, the Canadians are not trying to put their neighbors out of business, so our commonalities with rcalf scum ends at owning cattle . . .

" . . . exists and prospers ...."? Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh

Either you jest or refer to the lawyers the rcalfers are making prosperous?

Laugh Laugh Laugh


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burnt, "And trust me, the Canadians are not trying to put their neighbors out of business, so our commonalities with rcalf scum ends at owning cattle . . . "

The only people that want control of your assets are the big packers - and they're getting it done. Until you realize who the real enemy is, your problems will only multiply.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandhusker wrote:
Burnt, "And trust me, the Canadians are not trying to put their neighbors out of business, so our commonalities with rcalf scum ends at owning cattle . . . "

The only people that want control of your assets are the big packers - and they're getting it done. Until you realize who the real enemy is, your problems will only multiply.


Sandhusker, you do not need to tell me who the enemy is.

I fully recognize what has happened to the cattle industry on both sided of the border, and how each segment of opposition has played its part.

But again I will tell you - don't pee on me and then tell me that it's raining.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"producer sponsored "Rallys" thruout your country"

As far as I know there is one rally planed. The plural is a bit of a stretch. We keep testing and find a few and take them out of the system. Not sure what good announcing it all over the place does other than more fuel and fear mongering. Sheri, I am with Burnt on this one. As a reader of the Badger I would appreciate reports on all the other reportable diseases like rabies without the cherry picking.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's just a step to harmonizing with the usa. the next step is to not test and not find. or can sandhusker or oldtimer honestly say they believe the reason usda isn't finding any bse in the usa is because there is none?


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