Sheri vs Roy

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[Kato]

I don't care about percentages. They are easily manipulated numbers that can be bent either way to suit the purpose.

I do care about the close minded attitude of Mr. Rutledge. He's a pretty smart guy who's been around a long time, and has a lot of common sense. My issue is the close minded attitude about all things NFU. He has fallen hook line and sinker for that stunt RCalf pulled when they happened to be in the same room for a while with members of the NFU, and took that to mean the NFU has taken out a membership. I would have hoped he would have been able to see through that smokescreen, but instead he jumped to the conclusion they wanted him to. That's disappointing. He's smarter than that.

I am not a member of the NFU. But that does not mean I'm not open minded enough to consider what they have to say, the same way I consider what Mr. Rutledge and friends have to say. This whole supply management issue was brought up by the NFU, from what I understand, to spark debate. It has indeed done that, but too many people have missed their point. The thing is that if you get together, and come up with as many different ideas as possible, after a serious discussion and some debate, you just may be able to find something in there that will lead to a solution. You don't just say, "I don't like that one suggestion out of the four you brought up, so I'm not going to talk to you at all."

As long as the mainstream cattle groups are happy to close their minds to new ideas, and refuse to talk to anyone who is not in total agreement with them, then they run the risk of walking right by that small gem of an idea that could lead to a better future for us all.

Every time people who did not like each other's views put their personal biases aside for the common good, good things have happened.

Every time.

Without fail.

If only one lesson comes out of this whole fiasco, this is it.

[Big Muddy rancher]

Thanks Kato for a reasoned reply.


I guess old habits die hard but I feel pretty much the same about the NFU as Roy. And I had pretty much forgot about their meeting with R-Calf. The NFU has supported marketing boards for cattle since I was a kid and many of their platforms have included government involvement in our business.

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Blow hard vs Socialism. The NFU has a socialist side that is untenable for many of us but meeting with R-Calf does not put them in bed with them. If they meet with the CCA or the Stock Growers or the NCBA or the ABP or the PCs or the NDP are they in bed with them as well? When you start your rant with fear mongering as Roy did the rest of what he said kind of looses its credibility no matter how correct it may be. If it is case of you are who you hang out with, have a look at Roy's friends too.

[Big Muddy rancher]

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Never meant to offend you BMR and I suspected you may be a friend of his. I only know of him what he himself has written and that is how he comes across to me. You may have noticed that what I found disagreeable about him was his making assumptions that because someone attended a meeting they are vilified and called down. His past prose tend to leave no wiggle room to discuss. It might be just me but it seems his way or the highway. Maybe we're too much alike.

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Well I consider myself a friend of Roy's.

Certainly he uses discernment in at least some of his friends.

[Big Muddy rancher]

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[PORKER]

The Comment; north of 50% retailer. But there was no mention of the other side. 1.5 to 2 years of investment getting it to the packer and retailer. That adds up and does require a large percent of the pie. Without both sides and numbers for them the % of each is useless.

So why does the retailer thinks he needs 50% + , or are they just dam greedy or are they taking hugh loses on head lettuce and need to jack BEEF to high heaven to pay the checkout girl a wage. This seems to be the problem on both sides of the border.

There has to be a reason that the price of beef never gets back to the ranch as per The NFU, with the help of an Albertan rancher, butchered a cull cow which would have fetched $340 at auction, but yielded $1,233 worth of hamburger and stewing meat at current retail prices.

That's $893.00 dollars Canadian difference, the price of more than two cows. Just who is getting RICH here?

[Bill]

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[rkaiser]

I'm just glad that Roy and Sheri and the NFU are all in support of the BSE class action law suit against the feds.....LOL