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Ben H
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: Equine Retained Placenta |
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We had a horse foal out on Tuesday, she didn't clean right away and my wife called the Vet. She was always told it's a big problem if horses don't clean within 3 hours. I was always taught with cattle that you can cause more damage trying to remove it, and you treat it for being there, not to remove it.
I get home and the vet had her drugged up and the placenta removed. My wife asked him to explain the difference with horses and cattle, I wasn't too convinced. He said it's a difference in species, that horses can quickly get toxic and sometimes get laminitis (I understand that connection). Then he said she did have a little bit of a fever, 101.3. That didn't sound that high to me, so later I looked it up and that is in fact normal.
I really question these horse vets sometimes, too many drugs, way too much money. They often charge double what my cattle vet does for the same drugs.
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Northern Rancher
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| They can die within six hours if they don't clean-I've had it happen a few times-we usually give them oxytocin every hour for six hours and they will pass it most times. I was real lucky this year a mare had all but a little bit out we treated her and she took a bit longer than was safe to get rid of it. The neighbors mare got so fevered from not cleaning she laid in the slough and died-another died in the vet clinic. It's definately not at all like dealing with a cow.
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Silver
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Location: BC
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katrina
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Ben H
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Location: Gorham, ME
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| Are wild herds this sensitive or is it because horses have been so pampered over the years?
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Northern Rancher
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| The coyotes got to feast on a few of them over the years.
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jingo2
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Ben....you seem suspicious of EVERYONE....
Be glad the vet saved your horse instead of being paraniod of loosing a dollar
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Ben H
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I didn't grow up with horses, I grew up with cows. The mindset of treating a RP is completely different then a cow, I didn't understand why there is such a difference.
I don't mind paying a vet for their needed service, but the markup on the drugs is ridiculous compared to my cattle vet. Plus, bio-security is a joke with them. I don't think I've seen any of the horse vets we've dealt with sanitize their boots.
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jingo2
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Well...just goes to prove what I've told young people getting in to the livestock buisness for years now.
Learn about it ---- BEFORE you get it........not as you go.
Learning on the fly can be expensive and cruel at times.
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Big Muddy rancher
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Well...just goes to prove what I've told young people getting in to the livestock buisness for years now.
Learn about it ---- BEFORE you get it........not as you go.
Learning on the fly can be expensive and cruel at times. |
If you knew "EVERYTHING" about the livestock business BEFORE you got it nobody would be in the business.
Ben wasn't just complaining he was inquiring and learning. It's the ones that don't or won't ask and read that shouldn't be in the business. Or the ones that think they know everything.
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jingo2
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| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
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Well...just goes to prove what I've told young people getting in to the livestock buisness for years now.
Learn about it ---- BEFORE you get it........not as you go.
Learning on the fly can be expensive and cruel at times. |
If you knew "EVERYTHING" about the livestock business BEFORE you got it nobody would be in the business.
Ben wasn't just complaining he was inquiring and learning. It's the ones that don't or won't ask and read that shouldn't be in the business. Or the ones that think they know everything. |
I didn't say he should know EVERYTHING....hell I bet YOU don't know everyting.
I said he should LEARN because by his own admission he said he knew next to nothing about mares and foaling.
You should learn to read a bit slower
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Big Muddy rancher
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| Big Muddy rancher wrote: |
| jingo2 wrote: |
Well...just goes to prove what I've told young people getting in to the livestock buisness for years now.
Learn about it ---- BEFORE you get it........not as you go.
Learning on the fly can be expensive and cruel at times. |
If you knew "EVERYTHING" about the livestock business BEFORE you got it nobody would be in the business.
Ben wasn't just complaining he was inquiring and learning. It's the ones that don't or won't ask and read that shouldn't be in the business. Or the ones that think they know everything. |
I didn't say he should know EVERYTHING....hell I bet YOU don't know everyting.
I said he should LEARN because by his own admission he said he knew next to nothing about mares and foaling.
You should learn to read a bit slower |
Of course I don't know "everyting" That's why i ask questions, read and watch how other do things.
By your admission you have never had anything unexpected come up that you knew all about and just what to do about it. Must be nice to be perfect in every way. Poor you it must be hard to be humble.
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