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KRob
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Round Bale feeding...need experience Reply with quote

I am looking at changing over from an old aging stacker system to a baling system. I would prefer to do square since we feed squares bales that we buy as well however the price of a large square baler is a little more then we can do.

I have no experience feeding round bales and so i am asking you all to enlighten me.

We feed from Nov-Feb about 500 mother cows in the fields and about the 250-500 calves in a feed lot.

So what are your thoughts?

Thanks
Rob


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We unroll bales feeding cows on pastures in winter. Less damage to pastures and spreads fertility. Feed calves and anything in lots in round bale feeders. Have a couple of cone feeders that reduce wastage but wet spring precluded putting up any good hay this yr. so expect a lot of wastage this winter no matter how hay is fed.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We roll out bales for the main herd, most of the winter. We have a truck with a deck on it, and we also use the bucket on the tractor. You can also use a bale shredder.

We also tubgrind the bales for calves and for our cows at calving time, and when we want to mix poorer quality feed off with higher quality stuff.

And, we use round bale feeders in pens where we have smaller #'s of animals.

Rolled out hay


Rolling with the truck.


Rolling out with the tractor, too snowy to use the truck


Tubground feed, mostly to mix poorer quality stuff with good stuff.


Feeding in a feeder.


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jodywy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



no fork just a chain on the bucket, drop the chain over the bale kick the bucket into the bale and tighten the chain




dog keeps the cows away from the tractor while you cut strings


I have set whole bales out in the snow when I have to be gone a day or two, really have them sacttered around, seem there no more waste then spreading them out it just in one spot for each bale.


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the_jersey_lilly_2000
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jody...could you post a picture of the attachment that spins the hay? Mr Lilly would like to take a looksee at it.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

picture here on thier manual pdf
http://www.worksaver.com/Manuals/so_operation_manual_(08-00).pdthat
that manual for the older ones, the new one have a bigger hydraulic motor and a tapered spear. I got one of each.

http://www.worksaver.com/product/SpinOff.html


even a front mount


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few guys here weld a ball ontop of the spinner (the square tube) then fill thier 5th wheel flat bed with hay , get to the field and just lower the spinner letting the 5th wheel on its jack and they unload and feed


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I find it much easier to load a big square on flatbed trailer or pickup, put her in 4-lo, climb on and flake it out...but can't do that in rough-pastures with ditches and big muddy holes...so...if the girls are'nt TOO far out in the sticks, the tractor works nice...I have used the spinners once...far more fun than unrolling with tractor, or with Dew-eze flat-bed...

...if I never have to feed with a Dew-Eze again, it'll be too soon...

...I prefer to hire onto places that put up big-squares...perhaps more expensive equipment to put them up, but I find them easier to load/unload, stack, transport, and feed out...

Plus, it takes skunks FAR more time and effort to set up house and home in a stack-yard full of big-squares, than it does to move into a stack-yard of round bales.

...and I DON'T like skunks.


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jodywy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ltdumbear2 wrote:
Personally, I find it much easier to load a big square on flatbed trailer or pickup, put her in 4-lo, climb on and flake it out...but can't do that in rough-pastures with ditches and big muddy holes...so...if the girls are'nt TOO far out in the sticks, the tractor works nice...I have used the spinners once...far more fun than unrolling with tractor, or with Dew-eze flat-bed...

...if I never have to feed with a Dew-Eze again, it'll be too soon...

...I prefer to hire onto places that put up big-squares...perhaps more expensive equipment to put them up, but I find them easier to load/unload, stack, transport, and feed out...

Plus, it takes skunks FAR more time and effort to set up house and home in a stack-yard full of big-squares, than it does to move into a stack-yard of round bales.

...and I DON'T like skunks.


they don't store good with the snow we get, plus one has to use a ax to flake the top bales




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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'We' got hit with pretty good snow in north-east Converse County quite often, and/or that lovely rain/snow ('snain' ?) which would freeze/thaw/freeze, etc...and I got r' dun either which way...

...plus I had several 100lb sacks of corn (for sheep) and cake to feed stuffed in front of the bales...

...and calves to tag, which ALSO usually involved going 'upstairs' to visit with the owner afterwards, to argue about what her records showed, and what I actually had straddled on the ground when I tagged it, and what tag the momma (who was breathing over my shoulder) had while I was tagging the calf...

...and then water tanks to chop and clean out...sucker-rods to pull and leathers to replace...

...sacks to re-fill and weigh for the next day's feed...

...and water-lines to thaw out (cuz the idiots on the crew did'nt know how to let the water 'drip' during the night...

etc...you know how it works these days...lol


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally after paying big Doctor bills I would'nt want to feed anything that would require I get out and leave the vehicle drive itself.

From your post's you seam a bit picky about what you do.. I could use a good man here but he'd better not be afraid of welding in the shop feeding cows,haying,fenceing ,cutting wood,choping corn,hauling hay and a bit of spring field work that can be done in less than 5 days.If your interested I even have an extra house not fancy but liveable.Were not in Wyoming but were still Ranchers.

Everyone makes mistakes and argueing with the boss does'nt work talking does but argueing gets you gone.


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ltdumbear2
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bein picky at all...there's plenty of outfits right here in Wyo (where I'm already licenced and legal to drive) who are involved in the very same things you just outlined to me. They won't hire me...cuz the plain fact is, I'm highly allergic to fresh-cut hay..and that rules out farming. Period.

Up until a few yrs ago (when 4wheelers started showing up everywhere) I was a competant (if a bit conservative) horse-back hand. I was just starting to get a real feel for it...and then someone better came along. I got knocked to the side. That's life. Since then, for the past year and a half, my only focus in life has been to get horseback again. It is the only thing in life I have left to me, that makes me feel alive. I die a little, everyday that I'm left behind while others get to do the more 'fun stuff'.

I have no interest in farming...it just ain't there; but that does'nt mean I can't have civil discussions with the folks who are...

Trust me...I'm not nearly as 'toxic' as some of you 'veterans' of this web-forum are clearly wanting to believe.


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