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High Plains
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the draft side of things, I believe the Percheron breed includes some Arab blood way back when it was being developed, right? If that's right, then a little Arab sure didn't hurt those horses. The better ones have a much nicer head and overall look than a Belgian. I've sure seen a ton of jug-headed Percherons too, though.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to let you guys know, we use our horses on the ranch to move cattle, not for much else.

I'd like a decent horse to ride on the place (pleasure) and one that might produce some offspring worth a few extra bucks.

We're selling bermuda in volume right now and it's going to horse owners, of course. While I'm not selling bales at the ranch, I'm delivering, I'll surely have folks in the future arriving to buy bermuda. I think having some decent horse blood on the place might be a good match with the bermuda sales.

I'm looking at Appaloosa as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now you're really lost your marbles. Ha Exclamation

Juuust kidding, juuust kidding. Stop Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitewing, folks world wide have been breeding horses for specific uses as you know, for generations. You get what you would like, and works for you. I wouldn't suggest a warm blooded horse though, get a quiet one. That way you wont hate it later. As they need a job to be happy also.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just my opinion....comparing an Arabian to a Quarter horse is like comparing a Border collie to a Basset Hound.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would stick with Quarter horses for thier all around versatility. Pleasure riding, ranch work, rodeo arena, hunting, on the track, ect. While other breeds may offer one or two, few if any can match a quarter horse's wide range of talents. And they are currently doing all those things from Canada to the deep South. I personally dislike Arabians as they are very light boned and do not possess an ounce of "cow". Plus my vainity won't allow me to lower my standards! Wink Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lighten up guys! Before everyone gets on their "high horse" about the Arab / Quarter Horse debate, remember that the foundation of the Quarter Horse breed included more than one dose of Arab/Barb blood, through the Spanish horses, as well as the English ones. Thoroughbred horses without exception trace their pedigrees to one of five Arab lines. Wink

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The American Quarter Horse traces its roots back to the 1600’s. The horses in America at this time were mostly of Spanish origin, with the greatest amounts of blood from Arabian Barbs and Turk lines. In 1611 the first significant import of English horses was made to Virginia. These English horses were of native, eastern and Spanish blood.

When the new English horses were bred to the native stock, a compact horse with heavily muscled hindquarters began to develop. These horses were used for the various farm chores like plowing, pulling logs, pulling light carriages, and riding. The horses were bred to be able to do all of these things, which is where the breed’s great versatility started.

After doing chores all day the farmers would take their horses into town for friendly quarter mile races. The fastest over this distance would win, and consequently be bred more often, creating a versatile horse that could now sprint extremely fast over short distances.

As the people moved west they brought their horses with them. Many horses drove the cattle on this long trek. The people noticed how well the horses could work with the cows and the Quarter Horse made another name for itself as the perfect cow pony.


I can say that for endurance, Arabs are exellent. Light bones or not, they've won a pile of hundred mile races over the years. As for working cattle, that would have to be decided on a horse by horse basis. Some are probably good, and some are probably not.

Breed differences aside, it's the stud thing that has me wondering. Unless you're planning on breeding, why not go for a gelding that is more likely to keep his mind on the job? Cool


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Arabian mare was the best cow horse I ever had yet to date. She was pretty great all around, smart, and good looking. In her declining years, she babysat my son while I piddled around. Guess it depends on the horse. I've been around some real brain dead quarter horses, too.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frisco wrote:
My Arabian mare was the best cow horse I ever had yet to date. She was pretty great all around, smart, and good looking. In her declining years, she babysat my son while I piddled around. Guess it depends on the horse. I've been around some real brain dead quarter horses, too.


now i know you're full of it....a good lookin Arab? Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting program the other day on the radio called the Horse Show minute. It seems the Arabs became the darling of the "Tax shelter" crowd and they mutated from hardy using horses to "Lead and Feed" horses for the show people. Us AQHA people know all about that with the halter and western pleasure set. Anyway since the elimination of that Tax shelter they have dropped in value but it is probably helping the breed come back to a more "Using" horse and the old time breeders that stuck it out are proving they were right in the first place.
The Arab vs QH debate will go on forever because we are individuals and we like what we like. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin wrote:
Frisco wrote:
My Arabian mare was the best cow horse I ever had yet to date. She was pretty great all around, smart, and good looking. In her declining years, she babysat my son while I piddled around. Guess it depends on the horse. I've been around some real brain dead quarter horses, too.


now i know you're full of it....a good lookin Arab? Wink


LOL Beauty is in the eye of the beholder they say. I personally liked the deep intelligence in her eyes vs. the big "doi, the brains have been bred out of me glassy eyed stare" Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recall years ago a friend visited Texas and he went to a QH sale where the prices were okay but not outstanding. He then visited an Arabian sale where the women were dressed to the nines, complete with the white long gloves; and the men wore fancy suits. He went down to where the horses were and they had a fire extinguisher that they let off close to the horses. It causedthose Arabians eyes to really bug out and the more they drug their handler in the ring, the more money they brought. And they brought large sums...


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