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High Plains Member

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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On the draft side of things, I believe the Percheron breed includes some Arab blood way back when it was being developed, right? If that's right, then a little Arab sure didn't hurt those horses. The better ones have a much nicer head and overall look than a Belgian. I've sure seen a ton of jug-headed Percherons too, though.
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Whitewing Rancher

Joined: 04 Sep 2009 Posts: 2403 Location: Venezuela
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Just to let you guys know, we use our horses on the ranch to move cattle, not for much else.
I'd like a decent horse to ride on the place (pleasure) and one that might produce some offspring worth a few extra bucks.
We're selling bermuda in volume right now and it's going to horse owners, of course. While I'm not selling bales at the ranch, I'm delivering, I'll surely have folks in the future arriving to buy bermuda. I think having some decent horse blood on the place might be a good match with the bermuda sales.
I'm looking at Appaloosa as well.
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High Plains Member

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 656 Location: Nebraska
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nmhighdesert Member

Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 443 Location: northeastern NM
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Whitewing, folks world wide have been breeding horses for specific uses as you know, for generations. You get what you would like, and works for you. I wouldn't suggest a warm blooded horse though, get a quiet one. That way you wont hate it later. As they need a job to be happy also.
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the_jersey_lilly_2000 Rancher

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 11203 Location: South East Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| This is just my opinion....comparing an Arabian to a Quarter horse is like comparing a Border collie to a Basset Hound.
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leanin' H Rancher

Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 4095 Location: Western Utah Desert
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Kato Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2519 Location: Manitoba - At the end of the road
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lighten up guys! Before everyone gets on their "high horse" about the Arab / Quarter Horse debate, remember that the foundation of the Quarter Horse breed included more than one dose of Arab/Barb blood, through the Spanish horses, as well as the English ones. Thoroughbred horses without exception trace their pedigrees to one of five Arab lines.
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The American Quarter Horse traces its roots back to the 1600’s. The horses in America at this time were mostly of Spanish origin, with the greatest amounts of blood from Arabian Barbs and Turk lines. In 1611 the first significant import of English horses was made to Virginia. These English horses were of native, eastern and Spanish blood.
When the new English horses were bred to the native stock, a compact horse with heavily muscled hindquarters began to develop. These horses were used for the various farm chores like plowing, pulling logs, pulling light carriages, and riding. The horses were bred to be able to do all of these things, which is where the breed’s great versatility started.
After doing chores all day the farmers would take their horses into town for friendly quarter mile races. The fastest over this distance would win, and consequently be bred more often, creating a versatile horse that could now sprint extremely fast over short distances.
As the people moved west they brought their horses with them. Many horses drove the cattle on this long trek. The people noticed how well the horses could work with the cows and the Quarter Horse made another name for itself as the perfect cow pony. |
I can say that for endurance, Arabs are exellent. Light bones or not, they've won a pile of hundred mile races over the years. As for working cattle, that would have to be decided on a horse by horse basis. Some are probably good, and some are probably not.
Breed differences aside, it's the stud thing that has me wondering. Unless you're planning on breeding, why not go for a gelding that is more likely to keep his mind on the job? 
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Frisco Member

Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: God's country aka NW SD
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| My Arabian mare was the best cow horse I ever had yet to date. She was pretty great all around, smart, and good looking. In her declining years, she babysat my son while I piddled around. Guess it depends on the horse. I've been around some real brain dead quarter horses, too.
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Justin Rancher

Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 4019 Location: NW South Dakota
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Big Muddy rancher Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 15240 Location: Big Muddy valley
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Frisco Member

Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 134 Location: God's country aka NW SD
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Faster horses Rancher

Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 18920 Location: SE MT
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I recall years ago a friend visited Texas and he went to a QH sale where the prices were okay but not outstanding. He then visited an Arabian sale where the women were dressed to the nines, complete with the white long gloves; and the men wore fancy suits. He went down to where the horses were and they had a fire extinguisher that they let off close to the horses. It causedthose Arabians eyes to really bug out and the more they drug their handler in the ring, the more money they brought. And they brought large sums...
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