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Dylan Biggs
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: akbash pyreness pup Reply with quote

Sunrise this morning before going to feed the pup.



New pup in bonding pen with ewe lambs.

Excited about breakfast.



Hopefully she grows into an effective predator controller. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adorable! I don't know much about the breed...but I do hope she grows up to be a great dog...if not..she's still cute enuff to keep!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a very intelligent looking pup.

And that sky--what could I say to describe how awesome it is?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jassy the Akbash originated in Turkey as a livestock gaurdian dog and has been used successfully in North America as such, they have a reputation for being fearless. The pup is already showing interest in the sheep, I am going to put a calf in with them when we wean and hope to try some multi species grazing.

FH, thanks yes it was a spectacular sunrise, glad you enjoyed the photos! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that is one of the best sunrise pictures ever!!! Good job Smile

So with those kind of guard dogs...do you pretty much leave them alone, or can you pet/play with them? Like Jassy I don't know too much about them. Have seen a few but don't know much how the work.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicky wrote:
Wow, that is one of the best sunrise pictures ever!!! Good job Smile

So with those kind of guard dogs...do you pretty much leave them alone, or can you pet/play with them? Like Jassy I don't know too much about them. Have seen a few but don't know much how the work.


Nicky the critical thing with these guardian dogs is that their primary post weaning bond is with the stock then secondarily with the handler. So a couple of minutes a day of positive interaction with people and the remaining time with the stock. You want just enough of a bond with the dog that they trust you to be touched and a few basic commands and that is it.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those dogs are smart enough to resist letting you teach them more than a few basic commands. What predators are you protecting them from? Anything other than coyotes?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per, Coyotes are really my only concern, but a couple of days ago their was a claim of a wolf sighting just 8 to 10 miles away, I am skeptical though. Their have been sightings of wolves in the Neutral Hills and south around Patricia so I guess it may not be entirely out of the realm of possibility! Time will tell.

I was talking to some cattlemen who run cattle west of the 22 and they have had significant death loss and ADG loss on their yearlings this year that they attribute to wolves, doesn't sound like a problem I want to be acquainted with. Shocked Say what?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, our ranch is west of 22 but we have not had any issues yet this year. There are 3 known packs from west of Turner Valley south to Pincher Creek. They have caused some real havoc in the Bobs Creek area. I have a friend that presold yearlings a month and a half ago to move out 2 weeks ago. On move out day he was still missing 140 head after a two week round up in different ranges that weren't his allotment. I talked to him the other day and he is still missing 40 head. Some for sure will be wolf feed and the rest will show up somewhere eventually. Cattle that are harassed by wolves don't tend to gain well. I hope they avoid me this year, at least my calves are weaned and at home now.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per, I hope they leave your cattle alone, one of those things you really don't need to deal with!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy I would have hard time only spending a few minutes a day with it! Wolves are getting close here, we haven't seen one but there is a pack not too far away (as the crow flies...or the wolf travels Say what? ) that is causing havoc with the cattle in that area. Sure don't want to deal with that problem. We are out five calves and 3 cows as it is...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question - how would a guard dog do with wolves?


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