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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't know what gin tastes like, since it isn't my 'drink' of choice. However, I may find out as I'm getting desperate for safer help for arthritis pain and just might give the raisins steeped in gin a try.

Is NAFTA the ONLY basis for your belief that trade agreements only benefit the 'other' nation(s)?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

burnt wrote:
You guys all sound like bona fide OWS types . . .


Well- I am highly skeptical about any so called "free trade" agreement- because I've watched them for 30 years-- and all we seem to do is lose more sovereignty on what we can do- get more restrictions put on by GATT and the WTO- the AFTA's, GAFTA's and the NAFTA's and the dozen other agreements lose manufacturing and production incomes-- and until the last couple years when we lowered our dollar down (our national individuals income) to better match the third world countries/companies is the first time we've seen our ranch production (our cattle) to even come close to what they should have been priced for years...

Meanwhile they keep shipping us subpar products that aren't caught until they find mule meat in one of the zillions of shipments of beef they actually check---or dogs and kids start dying with melamine adulterated food products... Rolling Eyes Sad Mad

But at the same time a major part of our nations population will be priced out of being able to afford the product- and more are unemployed and struggling to survive... Sad

Is that really gaining when former third world countries eat steak- and the biggest share of the US population have to live on hamburger- if they can afford that... Say what?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OT, how many people in this country do you think are on some sort of assistance? Especially for food. Remember, the poorest in this country are considered wealthy by even the middle classes in many nation, and truly are, judging by what even the poorest families have here, compared with many other countries.

When I eat out, I see an awful lot of people also eating out, and they ARE eating steaks. The Texas Roadhouse and Out Back and other decent steak houses were so full, we gave up and went to a burger place a couple of times during the Cheyenne Frontier Days rodeo last summer. Granted, we don't eat out much excepting when we travel, and these mid-western states are not suffering as much (yet!) as in more heavily populated places. But, that is largely because people out here don't live as 'large' any time as many do in more populous places.

If any of you who believe we should not export, and that we should make sure everyone in this country can "afford to eat steak", how little are you going to be able to get for cattle you sell and still make a living raising cattle???

BTW, no small amount of what we export is parts of the animal people in the USA do not eat!!! Are you all going to find a market for all that stuff???

Something the Beef Checkoff has been doing is to work with many grocery stores and consumers, getting the stores to show consumers how to cut up larger cuts of beef into steaks and small roasts to put into their freezers at lower cost than buying a meals' worth at a time. Some stores even do the cutting themselves at no or very low cost, ending up with consumer paying considerably less than in buying a piece at a time. The consumer groups they have worked with appreciate the effort, as well as the lower priced, quality beef, they say.

Since schools no longer teach much in the way of home economics, some supermarkets are stepping up and showing consumers how to make better choices, and the Beef Checkoff benefits us by partnering in the effort to show how to make better beef choices for the consumer families. And some supermarkets in larger places have been doing this for a very long time, even assisting the Beef Checkoff in getting involved, especially with the recipes and beef information we did the research to assure accuracy of the information.

Re. export trade, it is a fact of life, and it is about time the US ag folks get a fair shake in the tariffs. Those three bills have been ready for a very long time, waiting on politicians to get desperate enough to finally act on them.

We have pushed for a long time to get some people involved in negotiations who had a prior experience as GOOD horse traders, tho. Ours in the past have been way too generous wih ou good products, and too willing to let others' keep their tariffs way too high.

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