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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:20 am Post subject:

Faster horses wrote:

Oldtimer wrote:

Faster horses wrote:

Oldtimer wrote:

mwj wrote:

Oldtimer wrote:

Faster horses wrote:

Since the government is planning to take over health care, maybe
those antibiotics are something they won't have to pay for. Ya think?

Nope- but I think putting human health above animal health or factory farm profits is the right way to go...
As fast as the ALL NATURAL cattle/beef marketing is growing- with no antibiotics/steroids- it shows this is the direction the consumer public wants and therefore the industry.... To me its the easiest premium you can get for your cattle....

What % of the mkt. has that natural beef captured? I think it will be a couple of months before it is a driving force in the market place Rolling Eyes

As always in this country price is the main force that drives the market.

ALL NATURAL cattle have been being sought around this area for at least 10 years- with the demand rising every year... Usually about at least a $5 cwt premium for doing nothing- and with calfhood vaccinations can amount to much more ...

That would be nice, if it beared out. That absolutely has not been the case in our area.
Lots of people that tried going 'all natural' have abandoned it because
they didn't get paid anything for doing so. And isn't it odd that 'all natural'
is supposed to mean something when selling calves and has no bearing
on yearlings........????

You must not have the right buyers going down there- because most up here want and pay extra if you can sign an ALL NATURAL verification on your cattle...Altho we have our own- the Stockyards now even offers an affidavit for those that qualify (includes age verification)...
Even bulls with an ALL NATURAL affidavit will bring a few dollars more because the buyers need that to get them into programs like Laura's Lean...

And our neighbor that runs 6000-8000 head of yearlings- red tags every calf they doctor either in the lot in the winter or on the range- and those are cut back at shipping time-and sold separate--- as they sell theirs for a premium as ALL NATURAL...

Oh, we have buyers that make noise about it, but when all was said and done,
an extra nickel didn't pay for the ones that perished or the ones the owners
couldn't sell because they had to be treated. It just wasn't worth it, not
enough premium was paid to satisfy the producers.

You didn't answer my question about the yearlings. Many yearlings are
summered being fed low doses of CTC to keep from having hoofrot, pinkeye,
pneumonia and for gaining extra weight.

Even CTC will knock them out of the program...Those ones that neighbor me get nothing- besides vaccination shots... And these are some straight shooter cattlemen. What they tell you- you could take to the bank...And when you run cattle of that numbers that you are getting a premium on for a management practice it darn sure isn't worth cheating on a few head and getting caught and losing the whole program.. The doctored cutbacks still sell- but just not at the premium price...
And since they run cattle under that program- it has allowed them to buy my calves and many other neighbors at a good price....

Faster horses
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:56 am Post subject:

Who said anything about cheating? Odd you brought that up. There are lots of straight-shooter cattlemen everywhere. I don't think it's unusual, rather I think ones that aren't straight shooters are unusual. I know CTC will not allow cattle to be sold as all natural. I know people here don't get paid enough to go on that program and no longer strive for it. We have a good friend that buys cattle and he doesn't mess with it either, pays a premium in our area and all-natural has nothing to do with it. Whatever works.

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