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Big Muddy rancher
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:09 pm Post subject:

Cedarcreek wrote:

gcreekrch wrote:

Big Muddy rancher wrote:

hayguy wrote:

now here's a thought Gcreek, i presume you heat your house with wood, why not put a water jacket on the stove with quick connects to the tractor. don't know all the logistics but i'm sure that it could be done

I just plug into a current bush. Wink

Deb and I got it all figured out. He is going to build his shop and heat both the house and shop with hot water from a outdoor furnace. It will also supply the domestic hot water. Problem solved. Deb and I figured that out one night while waiting for Gcreek to get home from gallivanting around the country.

It will keep the wood ashes out of the house and be just one fire to keep going.

Now I just have to figure out my own heating source. Confused

You are more help than you need to be! Razz

Thats how I heat my shop with intentions of getting the hot water run to the house to heat it and the domestic hot water too. Here coal is a better heat source for me than wood. I want to be able to work in the shop, not spending all my spare time cutting wood to keep the shop warm. Gcreek is still gonna need a current bush to keep the circulator pumps running. Wink

I would like to do that as well but I wonder about the smell of a coal fire. Not as nice as wood smoke.

hayguy
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject:

is coal readily available near you BMR?

Big Muddy rancher
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject:

hayguy wrote:

is coal readily available near you BMR?

Estevan has a place to get coal but it might be better to get a load from Drumheller or where ever that better coal comes from out that way. A few guys around here burn coal and some split a semi load every year or two.

gcreekrch
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject:

hayguy wrote:

so what type or make of stove do you use? and how much wood do you burn in an average winter? do you have a back-up heat source for when your away? do you cook with wood?

Our stove is a little CSA approved piece of garbage that won't hold a fire all night. The good stove that the ins. folks don't like is outside by the woodshed. It was made of 28 inch pipe with 1/2 inch wall. The damper will actually put a fire out if closed off and it would keep a fire for 18 20 hours.
No CSA, no ins. Been thinking of putting it back in the last few days and using the other for a bench in the corner. Wink

We use about 8 cords of wood per year. Back up heat source is Debbie as she rarely leaves the ranch. Laughing

Propane cookstove and water heater. Electric fridge and freezer.

Cedarcreek
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Location: Eastern Montana

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:51 am Post subject:

gcreekrch wrote:

There are 3 of those outdoor/radient heaters in this area. 2 brothers got a "deal" because they bought heaters at the same time. Both have shops that are about 40x60 and comparable 15-1600 sq ft homes. They each put about $25,000 into the setups. Now they are burning twice as much wood as before and their ins. has dropped about $700 per year.

Dry pine stacked in the woodshed is 90 to 120 per cord. It is one job we hire done as we are usually busy gathering cattle when it's time to cut wood.

Not a real big incentive for me to take the bait. Wink

I've got about $12000 invested in my boiler and 20 ton capacity coal bin. My other options would have been propane or electric boilers.

gcreekrch
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:57 am Post subject:

Did that include the hose and radiant units inside?

Cedarcreek
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject:

gcreekrch wrote:

Did that include the hose and radiant units inside?

No the radiant floorheat tubes was priced in the concrete in the shop and the pumps and manifolds were installed later. The pipe from the boiler to the shop was about $9.00 a foot. I don't have anything installed in the house yet.

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