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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Canuck Happy About R-CALF's Victory Reply with quote

I couldn't be happier to hear about R-Calf's victory! I think we should thank you for the supidity to allow us to increase our slaughter capacity. As well as expanding our own markets without using the USA as a middle man.
If any one should be pushing for a border opening it sould be the northern states. Don't they see their neibouring plants closing? While our slaughter capacity increases and we work on the age verification and the Canadian Cattle Identification programs to increase our export markets for CANADIAN BEEF that will be killed in CANADIAN PLANTS R-Calf let's their plants close and drags their feet on their own ID system. By winning this injunction it only makes it better for us in the long run
Thanks alot R-calf:lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree!!! You also forgot to point out how much risk they are creating for their own industry, for when the time comes that they find their own BSE!! Its amazing they could find 12 memebers, nevermind 12,000!!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree too. This will still hurt individuals, but in the long run be a benefit for the whole Canadain Industry.

I can't help but think, we're in a period of short term pain , for long term gain.

I wonder if R-calf is setting the US industry up for short term gain and long-term pain.

R-CALF, DON'T FORGET WHO WON THE RACE BETWEEN THE TORTISE AND HARE.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey guys dont tell em....let them figger it out after it is too late..


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the words of that great American philosopher, F.Gump.

Stupid is as Stupid Does. dunce

In the words of that great Canadian philosopher, my Dad,

When it all blows up in your face, don't come crying to me. Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As my kids say "it's all fun and games until someone loses a kidney" Surprised

R-CALF is setting the US beef industry up to lose more than a kidney if BSE is found in the US. Razz


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all know how honest R-calf is and how they worry for the consumer's safety. Why are they not telling the public that there are live Canadian cattle hitting their supermarket shelves everyday. Maybe they'd rather let PETA do it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murgen wrote:
We all know how honest R-calf is and how they worry for the consumer's safety. Why are they not telling the public that there are live Canadian cattle hitting their supermarket shelves everyday. Maybe they'd rather let PETA do it.



Good point, Murgen, but that would be the "other" half of the truth. Like Paul Harvey and his "The rest of the story".




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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually am pretty ambivalent whether the border opens or not. What I would like is to know which it is going to be. All this uncertainty makes it hard to plan. If we knew the border was going to open and their would be competition for our cattle, we could cut back on our plans to build packing plants. If it is going to stay closed, we should get as much slaughter capacity on line as we can and test everything for foreign markets. This yo-yo effect between the border going to open or not open, that we've got now is just hard on everyone.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sash, just wondering why you think we should dis-continue the building of slaughter plants if the border opens.

This whole experience has shown us how political these types of trade disputes are. Canada should continue to add-value to our "raw" resources. The finished product trade is protected by free trade agreements etc.

I actually hope the soft-wood lumber and durum wheat producers are also taking note. There is no reason why we can't finish these products in Canada and ship the "boxed" value-added product.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all have to remember that over the last 21 months, Governements have given lip service and not worked that hard to help us out. If we want to survive we have to do it on our own.
Set the table of a fair playing field, and we will survive, but keep it fair. Do not trust the promises politicians give us, north and south of the 49th.

Yes build slaughter plants, but work together. I am personally working towards the over thirty plant of Ranchers Meats at Edmonton. No shell game, cattleman working together.

We do have to watch some of the shell games that are being presented, especially the one about buying an existing plant, wonder who is promoting that one. Know who is going around and doing the talking, but who is promoting it.

If the border wasn't there we wouldn't have a chance to do this, but it is there and play fair is not in the American vocabulary, least not r-calfs. So let us prevail and build our own markets.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I would like to know is just how much longer will it take for some of these US ranchers to realize that the longer the border is closed the stronger Canada gets. The ranchers that are still standing will be leaner and meaner and they will know who their friends really are. Canada is years ahead of the US and when BSE is found, they will have to deal with it without a national ID system, the words of R-CALF haunting them and questionable credibility when it comes to the handleing of the first BSE case. Some of the US guys think it is funny to see Canadians hurting but what goes around comes around.


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