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efb
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Howdy1
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| I have heard of quite a few cows here in South Dakota. Don't have any around our area but talked to people that have them around them. It sounds like the southern cows are having a tough time adjusting to these northern temps. I talked to a vet the other day and he is helping with some cows that are being fed really really well and he said those poor thin hided gals are just making it. He said if we weren't having such a mild winter that he thinks they would be belly up. I am sure lots of them are doing just fine also. I hope they do well. I know people that are bordering some of these southern cattle are really nervous about disease outbreaks. Not that the cattle are sick but just might have brought with them viruses or strains that we are not exposed to here. Anyway hope everybody gets plenty of moisture this spring and summer.
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Justin
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| there are several bunches around here and they all seem to be doing fine, but it's also been an easy winter so far. they might be getting a little(or alot) more feed than the northern raised cows, but that was to be expected.
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WyomingRancher
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Location: Wyoming
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| I know people that are bordering some of these southern cattle are really nervous about disease outbreaks. Not that the cattle are sick but just might have brought with them viruses or strains that we are not exposed to here. Anyway hope everybody gets plenty of moisture this spring and summer. |
They should be concerned. I was visiting with a vet from Texas about the situation, and his concern was the spread of trich. There's an outifit near us which brings in pasture cattle, and if they have a rumen and a heartbeat, they'll take them in. Anyhow, they brought in open cows (junk which lost calves/never were bred) to breed them for sale  . They put out trich tested, virgin bulls with them, and eventually the bulls got in with the neighbor's cows. Both groups of cows had high open rates in the fall, and it was due to trich, the bulls got from the junk open cows. It makes me so mad when people try to breed crap which needs to go to slaughter, I sure miss taking culls to Packerland... you knew they were gone, and someone wasn't trying to squeeze another dollar out of them. As silly as the cattle deal is right now, I'm afraid stuff like this is only going to get worse. I'm ramping up my vaccination program just because of all of the strange cattle in the area, and hoping for the best.
The other neighborhood news I've heard is a neighbor who sold his cows to go to yearlings 10 years ago, is now wanting back into the cow/calf deal. I just might know of some acclimated heifers for him to purchase, for a price of course   .
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Big Swede
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Oldtimer
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Location: Northeast Montana
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Many of the industry "experts" and prognosticaters are saying that we will continue to see good cattle prices for many years to come...
Low supply, increasing nationwide and world population, many new Asian markets just beginning to use beef all lead to higher demand...
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Smallest U.S. Cattle Herd Since January 1958?
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general admin posted on January 27, 2012 08:56 :: 126 Views
As the boards of trade are taking final bids Friday afternoon, the USDA will be getting ready to release their catle inventory numbers. Ahead of the 1 MST report, Allendale, Inc. has made the following predictions:
■The beef cow herd has contracted for six years straight.
■The decline in the beef cow herd over 2011 was the largest one year decline since 1985.
■Lowest January 1 total cattle herd since January 1958.
■Lowest annual calf crop since 1950. Lower calf crop numbers will continue for three years.
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jodywy
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Location: western Wyoming easternIdaho... Star Valley
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| know alot of old ewes left Wyoming and other rocky mt. states and went to Texas ,
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4Diamond
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| several came to MO as well
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myersfarm
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YES seen bred cows all over the neighbors fields that were hay fields last few years
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WyomingRancher
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His timing might be a little off for getting into the cow deal again. By the time he get's any production off his heifer purchase I would guess we will be out of these lofty calf prices. Buying high and selling low usually doesn't work to well. Hope I'm wrong, maybe the price of these calves will never go down again.  
Not trying to talk him out of your heifer sale though WR, hope you get it done. Are you about ready to start calving? |
I agree with you, I wouldn't be buying at all time highs either. I don't think they are very concerned about finances. There is a lot of fantasy land ranching here... unfortunately no oil is to be found up on this rock pile. Even if it were up here, I'd have a hard time jumping into this bred cow market, real estate maybe, but not cows  .
A friend of mine told me he heard most of the 10,000 bred heifers which sold in Billings a few weeks ago are heading to Russia. Has anybody else heard about this?
Yes, the ladies are getting closer. The bulls went out May 16, so I'll be looking for calves mid-February. I just hope they come out lively and healthy. I'll be calving the most amount of cows since I arrived 16 years ago, and have even less help than before since my good dog died last summer... wish me luck!
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ltdumbear2
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no need to go it alone Wyomingrancher...there's always classifieds (here in ranchers dot net) and Ranchworldads.com where everybody and thier SISTER seems intent on re-locating out here to 'become' a cowboy/cowgirl...
...and then there's Craigslist Farm&Ranch link...never know who'll be advertising in there looking for work (or help).
I'd avoid Wyo Job-Service though...Mtn Plains Ag has that niche pretty much filled-up right now.
Good luck...winter will be over soon.
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Oldtimer
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no need to go it alone Wyomingrancher...there's always classifieds (here in ranchers dot net) and Ranchworldads.com where everybody and thier SISTER seems intent on re-locating out here to 'become' a cowboy/cowgirl...
...and then there's Craigslist Farm&Ranch link...never know who'll be advertising in there looking for work (or help).
I'd avoid Wyo Job-Service though...Mtn Plains Ag has that niche pretty much filled-up right now.
Good luck...winter will be over soon. |
Well up here right now- unless you're ready to pay $3000-4000 ++ a month, furnish a modern house, + vehicle, + all gas- + beef + a a grocery store credit--- You are not going to get anyone dependable/reliable or that knows anything about cows/horses--- and many of those that qualify for that will be over 45- 50 years old....
Most younger folks are heading to the Oil Field/Oil Support jobs where anyone reliable can easily bring in $10,000 a month--even if they have to live in mancamps during their 4 day work weeks and drive/fly back and forth every week/month to home/where there family lives on days off- or every few weeks....
Sure makes those old cows/heifers that have a herd history/genetic background that will go out and calve on pasture on their own- and mother up good- without having a babysitter look much more profitable..
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