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Aaron
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As far as I know, all shipments are by air to Russia now. Too much death loss on a ship, compared to loading a few hundred head on a plane and be there and back in a matter of days.
I sold one purebred heifer calf to Russia in November (just to test the waters). $1200 check was mailed out the day she hit the quarantine yard in Ontario and the export company phoned and asked me to sell all my registered calves to them this fall at $1200. Always nice to have something to look forward too.
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katrina
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| I have a friend who will sell some to Russia in the next few weeks.. They want 700 pound registered hiefiers will go to Illinois to be bred and then shipped on a boat... I think he said it was Krebs who was putting this together. I think he said bunches over 100 was $1500 apiece.
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Denny
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| Was offererd $1400 a head for the cull type heifers as long as they were registered to bad mine all went to a feedlot 3 months ago.
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leanin' H
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mwj
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George
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Even if they have extremely good luck it will take at least a decade before they will have a large enough base to affect us. And with the way they have run everything else I don't see it happening that soon.
I would think they should have made their purchases in Canada as the climate would be more like their's. Easier for the cattle to adjust, they should also rent some good cowboys for a couple of years.
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Faster horses
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| George wrote: |
Even if they have extremely good luck it will take at least a decade before they will have a large enough base to affect us. And with the way they have run everything else I don't see it happening that soon.
I would think they should have made their purchases in Canada as the climate would be more like their's. Easier for the cattle to adjust, they should also rent some good cowboys for a couple of years. |
They did. Paid 'em $100,000/yr but some of the cowboys couldn't take
it and came back.
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leanin' H
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Aaron
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H, I have heard your concerns from others, ie shooting ourselves in the foot.
But the simple fact is, the former USSR is going to raise cattle, and they are going to export it. I doubt they will be an exporting concern within the lifespan of many on here, but I think in my lifetime, they have the shrewd business sense to get it done.
Look at equipment manufacturers. Kazakhstan agriculture minister comes out and says to John Deere, Agco, CaseIHNH, etc. you want your equipment here, you BUILD it here, and the first ones to build plants here will have market dominance. Pretty smart! Might not be the free market, but you can't argue with results.
So, if they don't buy cattle from us, they will go somewhere else. And I don't know for sure, but if you try to tell me to buy a bull when I want a heifer, I'll politely go somewhere else to shop.
The big picture for ag in North America in 20 years is not the current one.
To give a rough idea of what I am thinking, in my area alone, out of 160 or so beef producers, less than 30 are under the age of 40, and over half of that number are currently bachelors. Do you see where producer numbers are heading?
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gcreekrch
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H, I have heard your concerns from others, ie shooting ourselves in the foot.
But the simple fact is, the former USSR is going to raise cattle, and they are going to export it. I doubt they will be an exporting concern within the lifespan of many on here, but I think in my lifetime, they have the shrewd business sense to get it done.
Look at equipment manufacturers. Kazakhstan agriculture minister comes out and says to John Deere, Agco, CaseIHNH, etc. you want your equipment here, you BUILD it here, and the first ones to build plants here will have market dominance. Pretty smart! Might not be the free market, but you can't argue with results.
So, if they don't buy cattle from us, they will go somewhere else. And I don't know for sure, but if you try to tell me to buy a bull when I want a heifer, I'll politely go somewhere else to shop.
The big picture for ag in North America in 20 years is not the current one.
To give a rough idea of what I am thinking, in my area alone, out of 160 or so beef producers, less than 30 are under the age of 40, and over half of that number are currently bachelors. Do you see where producer numbers are heading? |
So.....you batchelors need to trade heifers for Russian farmgirls. 
That way you could keep the rest of your cattle here and perpetuate the farmer breed. 
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Wouldn't it make more sense to ship them boxed beef? I get that they want to build their own cattle base. But down the trail it might bite us on the backside.
My opinion only and not meant to offend. If you are selling heifers that go to Russia, good for you. Just thinking big picture.