Bull Reports

[Just Ranchin]

Well the season has started. I see Lazy S averaged 5300 on just about 200 bulls. Any word on how MC Quantock made out?

[BRG]

Here is one that happened down here over the weekend.

21 Angus
New England, ND


131.....Yearling Angus Bulls.....$4,865

[Big Muddy rancher]

[per]

This is from gcreek on Quantock.

Sale average was 4316.16 on 411 bulls.

[Big Muddy rancher]

[Just Ranchin]

If that is true, then that is significantly better than other years.

[Bent C Angus]

Just Ranchin do you know the top selling lots in the Lazy S sale?

[Just Ranchin]

According to DLMS it was lot 56 at 16,000. Lot 78 brought 10,500. Besides that, it looks like a real steady sale with lots of bulls bringing between 5000-9000.

[Oldtimer]

Sometimes these prices make me wonder how much these folks buying have to have for deductions or depreciations on their taxes? Or how much moldy money is laying around?
Ranchers are famous for when the money rolls in- they spend it...

Do you need a $5000- $10,000 bull to raise good calves/cows

Do they really need an extremely high dollar registered bull with all the fancy numbers to put on their commercial cows - or would one much cheaper from a 30-40-50 year breeder selling them unregistered in a large volume private treaty at 1/2 to a 1/3 the price do as good-- or better......EX- Shoshone angus- Horsebutte Angus- McNamee Angus-Keeney Angus- etc. etc. that have years and years of breeding that no longer sell highly promoted registered bulls sired by "emotion, commotion, high dollar promotion" full slick page Angus Journal bull stud advertised sired bulls......

My only regret has been that some of that long time proven breeding/genetics couldn't be being kept up in the registered industry- altho there are a few out there that have used it for years and have much of it still available to the angus registry....


I have no dog in the hunt- as I breed mainly for bulls that can make good momma cows-look for bulls that will do that from many herds-- have and do sell some registered- some commercial bulls/heifers (most those only want a good genetic animal not a paper- or fancy #'s)- but just courious as to what others think...

To me a big part of a couple of generations of breeding was removed from the angus registry when Larry Leonhardt/Keeney/Horsebutte/McNamee dropped selling registered animals:

http://www.keeneyscorner.com/

[Just Ranchin]

I don't disagree OT. This was mainly a Simmie sale, from a pretty reputable breeder and up here the Simmental breed has been the hottest price tag for the past few years. I am a firm believer that the best thing for a breed is not found behind a champion banner but behind an old farm sign. Unforunately, we as breeders are like sheep, following the latest fad. Some of the best cattle we have bought came from ranch conditions. Some of the worst cattle we have owned won a show.

[BRG]

Not all these good sales are from "emotion, commotion, high dollar promotion" as you say OT. Lots of these guys who have good sales don't own a halter, they spend some money on advertising(as you have to or else you won't have a crowd), but not to the extent you make it sound, and they don't trade money. But these guys have customers who sold calves from $800 last fall upto $1300 right now. A bull should be worth a heck of alot more than what it was last year, as calves sure are.

[Justin]