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Maple Leaf Angus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Turn About is "Fair Play" Reply with quote
How would you Americans like this idea?

Since we "allowed" your people to come up here and check out our beef industry, perhaps we should send a number of our CFIA inspectors down your way to "help" your USDA vets check for BSE.

It seems that ours are pretty good at what they do. Like, qualified, maybe, and not easily bought off.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If we have a homegrown BSE case, then you have every right to come test and make sure everything is on the up and up if you don't want to take our beef. Until then you have no right, we didn't come check you out before your first case.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well you did have one case, seems a little fishy too.....are you scared of what we might find?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So Japan has no right? How will you open that export market then?

We do have the right to require your cattle to be branded, mouthed, preg checked, ID'd traceable to original herd, and shipped in sealed trucks if they wish to come north though if we really want to make this thing equitable.

And the cattlemen in Montana thought the Anaplasmosis test requirements were too much????
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Go for it!!!! Wink You don't take enough of our cow to bankrupt a hobby farmer now.




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Maple Leaf Angus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh my, rancher. I can hardly believe that you are so niave. If fact, you seem to have missed the entire thrust of my post.

Please don't make us think less of your capacities by posting a response like yours.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And your first post was fully of brain wit?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rancher, The USDA did find one case so maybe the CFIA should come down and make sure that there are no other Canadian cattle with BSE in the US. But since you can't find them to save your souls I guess the CFIA should test everything that stumbles or dies as it may be from Canada.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tell you what Tam I wished you would come down and test them all, we would get our markets back and not cost us a dime. If we have it I am not one for coverups, find it, deal with it and test to see how bad it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tell you what Tam I wished you would come down and test them all, we would get our markets back and not cost us a dime.



Another case of wanting something as long as it doesn't cost you right Rancher Wink Just like the National ID system to trace back your cattle


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If we have it I am not one for coverups, find it, deal with it and test to see how bad it is.


Come on, after what R-CALF has told the US consumers about how unsafe Canadian beef is the only thing you can afford is for the USDA to go on hiding the true prevalence as if it is found you and the rest of the industry are doomed. NO exports and no domestic confidence left. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tell you what Tam I wished you would come down and test them all, we would get our markets back and not cost us a dime.


Another case of wanting something as long as it doesn't cost you right Rancher Wink Just like the National ID system to trace back your cattle

Come on, after what R-CALF has told the US consumers about how unsafe Canadian beef is the only thing you can afford is for the USDA to go on hiding the true prevalence as if it is found you and the rest of the industry are doomed. NO exports and no domestic confidence left. Razz


I guess I am not a flip flopper like NCBA or a blindless follower like the members they still have left. I think for myself, if we have BSE, then find it and get rid of it. I for one don't want my kids or future grandkids told on down the line, oops we made a mistake. You can point fingers and tell me I am a liar to make your venting go better, it sure doesn't bother me.

You know you would treat us the same or worse if we had the first case. We took your boxed beef, now you want us to bail you out, if it don't go your way you cuss us more. Why don't we rant and rave at how you lost our export markets for us? Say what? Rolling Eyes Say what? Rolling Eyes Say what? Rolling Eyes Say what? Rolling Eyes Say what? Rolling Eyes Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can you guarantee that the infected feed did not come from the U.S.??
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