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Tam
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Slippery slope Reply with quote
Did Obama put the US on a slippery slope when he inacted the Obamacare rule that the Catholic Church has to provide birth control?

Let me explain if the Catholic Church comes out and claims it is their religious belief/practice to not believe in Birth control therefore the government has no right to require they do it, what stops the Muslims from claiming they are going to live under Sharia Law with Honor killings and all? What is stopping the Mormans from asking Romney if he wins to abolish the Morrill Act that made Polygamy illegal? That act had a very large influence in the Romney family as Romney's father was born in Mexico because his father had more than one wife.

How far will the government go to make the Catholic Church comply with Obamacare if Obamacare is found to be Constitutional with the help of Kagen.

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In 1862, the United States Congress passed the Morrill Act, which prohibited plural marriage in the territories (including Utah) and dis-incorporated the church.[2] In spite of the law, the Mormons continued the practice of polygamy, believing that it was protected by the First Amendment. In 1879, in Reynolds v. United States,[3] the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the Morrill Act, stating: "Laws are made for the government of actions, and while they cannot interfere with mere religious belief and opinion, they may with practices


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
and what about satanists Tam??


will they claim a right to "practice" some of their bizar evil things?

evolutionists are a faith bases religion- as are radical enviromentalists, what about them??

Good Post Tam!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What got me thinking about this was last week when the Catholic Bishop and a Rabi were on Fox talking about the birth control issue. The Rabi said the religious leaders had to stand together and stop this government intursion on Religious beliefs as if they can do this to the Catholic Church what religion will be the next to be under attack.

Then last night in Romney's speech in Nevada he said if he is elected President he was going to strike down laws the infringe on religious beliefs. Now he was probably talking about the Catholic Birth control issue as that has been in the news. BUT what's next if he strikes down that law/rule? Will that open the door to other religions taking the Government to court over their religious beliefs? The US could become a very scarey place to live if all religious beliefs are allowed to stand un-opposed.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
One thing: The Catholic Church not providing contraceptive or abortion services does not any any way effect the population as a whole. Contraception is readily available elsewhere, the Catholic Church does not need to be a part of it.
Sharia law on the other hand does effect the population as a whole.

Also Poligamy would change the whole essence of society, as would marriage between two men or two women.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Martin Jr. wrote:
One thing: The Catholic Church not providing contraceptive or abortion services does not any any way effect the population as a whole. Contraception is readily available elsewhere, the Catholic Church does not need to be a part of it.
Sharia law on the other hand does effect the population as a whole.


You might be right but if the Government bends to allow one religion to follow their beliefs ie Catholic on birth control then there is a presidence set that can be used in a court of law the will force the government to allow all religions to follow their beliefs ie Muslims with Sharia, Mormans with Polygamy, and so on and so on. Will Obamacare open the door to Sharia if the Catholics fight him on the birth control issue on a religous bases?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would hope that there is enough common sense left in the country not to take that issue as a door to other issues more detrimental to our society.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
JOBS are more important
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jobs are important, but why can't we have Justice and jobs too.

Obama can't or won't give us either.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jingo2 wrote:
JOBS are more important



TOO BAD this was not your attitude when Obama was stuffing Obamacare through Congress at the objection of a majority of voters. But hey what better way to distract anyone discussing his true agenda and what he is really up to next. Rolling Eyes

JOBS JOBS JOBS don't look back at what he has done with his dirty filthy backroom deals, just look forward to what he SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING WHILE HE WAS PASSING HIS UNREAD SIGNATURE BILL. Mad
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
jingo2 wrote:
JOBS are more important


No they are not, at least not to me. This is another freedom that is getting taken away from us. I am a practicing catholic, and I find it offensive that this SOB thinks he can tell me what I have to do in my business, which is against my religious belief. Whats next, and believe me, their will be something next that he wants to take away from us, if you don't want to believe it, fine, just sit back and watch it happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
this is why the federal govt. is SUPPOSED to be limited by our Constitution.

we are NOT a one size fits all govt., certain things should be up to states, counties, or communities. then if you don't like the regulations of a particular place you vote with your feet and move- the only option these unconstitutional actions leave us is revolution or relocation to another more free country. (Russia maybe) Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If Obama and his cohorts would happen to win next fall, and they keep this up, Catholics need to stand up and fight against it, and we will.

Obama and the whole Democrat party leadership will be brought to its knees if this continues.
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