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C-E Member

Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 126 Location: kansas
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: info on hancock horses |
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| Looking at possibly trading for a Hancock bred mare. Never been around any Hancock bred horses. Just curious what your thoughts and opinions are. Thanks.
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Bruce Member

Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 116 Location: Northern Alberta Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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I would be hesitant to compare a bloodline in Alberta with one in Kansas.....that being said I have found a large percentage of them will buck a little and stay with it for a while. Very impressed with their work ethic, as in lot's of bottom, lot's of try and the odd one with unbeleivable stamina.
They don't seem to work out very well for the "grab out of the pasture every couple of month's for a Sunday afternoon ride with the grandkid's" they need a job to do and the steadier the better. Same as any other bloodline though I'd look at how much Hancock, how far back, what else is on the paper's? Anybody close up that's proven? (to me that could be the neighbor's old stud that never traveled more than 50 mile from home, if I like him : )
Then I'd throw that all aside and judge the horse on it's own merit's, which can be a little hard if your talking broodmare, due to age, injury, lack of trainning.....
I did a colt starting demo for a local club a few year's ago and they had a little grey mare all spit and fire. Hancock and Blue Valentine breeding. It was.......interesting, and probably entertaining to watch After the demo they raffled the horse off and I thought "great now I'm going to be known forever as - you know that guy that started that colt that maimed 3 people"
As luck would have it she went to a guy that's just a tad tough, you know wear's his boot's out from the inside? They get along great, he told everyone she was better started then any 30 day colt he's had, after 5 session's (3 ride's in a 50 ft pen)
More than you wanted to know but hey you didn't HAVE to read it all 
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Chimenea Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2010 Posts: 79 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: info on hancock horses |
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| C-E wrote: |
| Looking at possibly trading for a Hancock bred mare. Never been around any Hancock bred horses. Just curious what your thoughts and opinions are. Thanks. |
Like a lot of other famous bloodlines, you'll find a lot of people that either love them or hate them. The linebred Hankcock horses have, at least from what I've heard, a reputation for being tough, in a couple senses of the word. Tough, in that they have a lot of stamina and can hold up to a lot of work on a real ranch. Tough, also, in that they have a reputation for being broncy and sensitive. They tend to be on the bigger side with quite a bit of leg and big bodies (Joe Hancock´s dam was 1/2 Percheron). They're athletic, stout, big-country cowboy horses, is how I'd describe them.
This said, I will add the following two caveats: a) I've never owned a line bred Hancock horse, though several of my friends have owned some and the linebred Hancock horses owned by my friends certainly fit the reputation for toughness and size; and b) my comments are strictly generalities regarding linebred Hancock horses, and the mare you're looking at is an individual that needs to be evaluated on her own merit. How much Hancock blood does she have? Do you have a pedigree you could point us to?
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ranch hand Member

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 584 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Blue Valentine horses have some buck. Have owned lots of Hancock, a all day traveling horse, bigger bone, and loves cows. Have had very few that want to buck, ones that do really enjoy it.
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gcreekrch Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 8922 Location: west chilcotin bc
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txbobcat Member

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Location: China Spring, TX
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Take a look at http://www.gisthorses.com/
My brother, Rusty Rodgers, is the ranch manager at the Wagon Wheel Ranch in Lampasas, TX.
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LazyWP Member

Joined: 24 Apr 2009 Posts: 543 Location: about 40 miles southeast of Soapweed
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| I would say if you are man enough to get the horse going, you will have a great horse. We tried starting a line bred Hancock horse, and never could get the run out of it. It probably had the best handle of any horse we have started, but you couldn't get off of him with out someone else having a rope around his neck. 4 more people tried getting him over it. Last I knew he went to the Corsica horse sale.
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WHR Member

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 20 Location: sw sask
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| As gcreek suggested, I do have an opinion on Hancock horses but can really only comment on the line that we had, which was linebred Hancock, Leo and Grey Badger. Neither the stud or any of the 8 or 10 colts that I rode had the slightest buck in them. We kind of got away from those horses to more popular cowhorse bloodlines and I haven't been as well mounted since. They were tough and cowy and could travel. I've seen others though, that are so hard to the Hancock that they can get a bit heavy footed for my taste. I haven't ridden any Blue Valentines but would like to try some sometime. Anyway that's my two cents worth.
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katrina Rancher

Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 7792 Location: East north east of Soapweed
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WHR Member

Joined: 22 Mar 2011 Posts: 20 Location: sw sask
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| We have a home raised Blue Valentine/Peppy San/Baldy Barnes bred gelding that is a real sweetheart to ride. |
I'll have to agree that some of my favourites have had Baldy Barnes in there. He must have been a good horse but I suspect not very widely known. I think that he stood in Wyoming somewhere.
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C-E Member

Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 126 Location: kansas
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I spoke with the gentleman again this evening, and this mare isn't heavily Hancock bred at all. Really not sure why he said that, she does go back to blue valentine on the top side but is not line bred Hancock. Here is her pedigree http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ruby+ranger+jpt Still plan on going to see/ride her this weekend. Please feel free to let me know what you think of the rest of her pedigree. And if I can figure out how to get a pic from my phone to here I'll try to post it.
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gcreekrch Rancher

Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 8922 Location: west chilcotin bc
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