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[Tam]

Who votes for this to be the stupidest comment by Bullard. I know there are lots but come on.

[SASH]

I don't know. I've heard him say lots of pretty stupid things. Whether this is the stupidest or not is debatable.

[the chief]

In 1998, the hog industry suffered its worst period of low prices. How did this occur? The large packers bought out small packing plants and then closed the packing plants. Then they had the audacity to attribute the hog market collapse on "loss of shackle space."

since Canada's problem now is too many cattle and not enough packing plants, the packers will build some more. This is good for their industry.

It will also be good for American beef industry. HOW? you ask. I know many of you NCBA lovers forgot this word: COMPETITION in the marketplace.

I guess it's easy to forget that terminology when you have it so engrained into your system that the packer is your best friend. Especially when they DISCOURAGE competition.

Let's just hope after the Canadian packing plants begin operation, they take pride in their product and LABEL IT CANADIAN BEEF. since NCBA and the AMI don't want it, maybe you guys can use it to your advantage and let American beef men and women see how well it works. I know I will use that label for my own protection and safety.

[Tam]

The beef leaving Canada has product of Canada on the box and probably always will. It loses the label when it gets to the US, so how can you say we could show the americans beef men and women how well it works.

That competition in the market place ie export markets could drive down the price the customer will pay if he can get the same thing or better from a competeing country for less. And as you may have noticed that Canada has done with less for a couple years and if it takes a little less to establish a good market you can bet we'll take that too if it means taking your market after all the crap you have put us through. If things get really bad we could always 100% test which we know the USDA will never do to get the markets away from you. Now would you like to work together or compete.

[Bull Burger]

[~SH~]

Chief,

If competition in the cattle market doesn't already exist, how were larger packing companies able to buy out smaller companies???

Hmmmmm????

Typical packer blaming contradiction!



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[agman]

[quote="the chief"]In 1998, the hog industry suffered its worst period of low prices. How did this occur? The large packers bought out small packing plants and then closed the packing plants. Then they had the audacity to attribute the hog market collapse on "loss of shackle space."

Response..The rest of the story. Although some plants were shut down total slaughter capacity actually increased. Following two years of very high prices and profits hog producers expanded to the level that exceeded the expanded slaughter capacity. Slaughter levels were at a record in 1998, 9 million head more that the previous year and 5 million head more than the previous record set in 1995. Do you see a problem with your story chief? Partial and incorrect information such as you posted is more dangerous than no information at all. Have a great day.

[Sandhusker]

[Mike]

The 1998 hog market crisis followed two years of historically high prices, and caught many producers blind sided. By the spring of 1999, the situation had begun to ease, with prices rebounding closer to the break-even point. Yet industry analysts, producers, trade groups and professors continue to analyze the hog industry's price collapse. They cite multiple reasons for the crisis. Chief among them, many agree, has been that hog supplies have far exceeded the slaughter capacity of U.S. packing plants.
In reality, however, over-supply wasn't the root problem, insist some producer representatives. Although the National Pork Producers Council (NPPC) board of directors agreed in November that farmers were producing too many hogs for the existing slaughter capacity in the United States, it believed the source of the industry's troubles lay elsewhere.
"It is not that we are producing too much pork," NPPC's board told producers in an open letter. "Domestic consumer demand and exports are actually up significantly compared to 1997."
The real problem, the board said, is that, producers have lost bargaining power."

[RHR]

Chief, Since the packers are your ememies and can't be trusted why don't you and your R-Calf buddies take some of your litigation money and buy or start a packing plant? You then could take the profits and really go to work at closing our borders and keep our meat supply safe.

[SMS]

OMG

I can't believe how the focus of this thread has been lost...back on subject.

This is just Bullard showing his level of intelligence again about the beef industry.

Bill Bullard, R-CALF's chief executive officer, said signs of packing-plant construction in Canada are not a response to the border controversy"



So whats the vote now...stupid statement or idiot?

[~SH~]

Sandhusker: "Competition has ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING to do with an outfit buying anybody else out."

As usual, you are wrong again!

If competition didn't exist, smaller packing plants could remain in business despite the added efficiencies of larger packing plants. Smaller plants could pay up for the cattle and still assume a reasonable profit because, THERE'S NO COMPETITION!!!!

The truth is, because competition does exist, most smaller less efficient packing companies couldn't compete with the larger more efficient packing companies at the prices they were paying for fat cattle and still remain profitable so most sold out to the competition that "supposedly" didn't exist.

Conflicting arguments.

1. If there is no competition as the packer blamers allege, smaller less efficient packing companies could remain profitable.

2. If there is compeition in the packing industry, smaller less efficient packing companies wouldn't be able to pay up for the cattle and still remain profitable.

WHICH ONE OCCCURED????

#2!


Once again, you show how much you dont' know Sandhusker!



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