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Tam Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 8696 Location: Sask
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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For all you R-CALFers that like useing the OIE please read all of this and note the parts I highlighted
The OIE standards on BSE: a guide for understanding and proper implementation
The World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) has become increasingly concerned about reports of international trade disruptions involving the misinterpretation of OIE standards. Recent published information on categorization of countries by the OIE indicates there are some apparent misunderstandings about the nature and purpose of the OIE international standards and guidelines, and their interpretation and implementation by Member countries.
The OIE Terrestrial Animal Health Code (the Code) contains standards, guidelines and recommendations to be used by national veterinary authorities to prevent the introduction of infectious agents pathogenic for animals and humans into the importing country during trade of animals and animal products, while avoiding unjustified sanitary barriers.
While the Code describes conditions for the classification of countries into one of five BSE risk categories, the OIE itself does not assign countries to all these categories. These are used by importing countries when determining the specific conditions for trade. However, the OIE has been recently requested to examine country submissions, made on a voluntary basis, for determining whether they meet the conditions to be officially classified by an OIE decision as "BSE free" or "BSE provisionally free". For the moment the OIE does not give an opinion on the further 3 categories existing in the Code. So far no country has been given such recognition by the OIE. Furthermore, the OIE has been requested by Member countries to reduce the current number of categories.
The Code also draws attention to the obligations under the provisions of the World Trade Organization-Sanitary and Phytosanitary Agreement (WTO-SPS), whereby the importing country cannot be more trade restrictive than necessary to achieve the desired national level of protection, and that its measures must not be different from those applied to products within the domestic market.
The OIE chapter on BSE currently describes five levels of exporting country status based on their determined risk level (free, provisionally free, minimal risk, moderate risk and high risk). It then addresses trade conditions for various commodities through an increasing degree of restrictions commensurate with the risks presented. For example, fresh meat may be imported safely from a country of any BSE status but with increasing restrictions so that, for countries presenting a high BSE risk, more severe measures are applied to the cattle and to the meat itself. The experts consider that, if these measures are followed, the meat is safe.
For some commodities however, the experts have determined that particular commodities should not be exported even from countries presenting a low BSE risk. For example, meat and bone meal, or any commodity containing such products, which originate from countries with minimal, moderate or high BSE risk should not be traded.
It is apparent that some Member Countries are applying trade bans when an exporting country reports the presence of BSE, without consulting the recommendations in the Code or conducting a risk analysis in accordance with its OIE and WTO obligations. While the Code provides increasingly restrictive recommendations which are commensurate with the level of BSE risk in each of the country status categories, it does not recommend any other ban than the above mentioned on trade of animals or specific animal products.
Regarding the BSE situation in the European Union and more recently in Japan, Canada and the US, the existence of valid up-to-date standards did not prevent major trade disruptions due to a failure by many countries to apply the international standard when establishing or revising their import policies. This has been particularly evident in the case of commodities for which the Code recommends that no restrictions be applied, regardless of the BSE status of the exporting country.
Except for short trade suspensions during investigation period following a new epidemiological event, it is of particular concern to the OIE that many countries apply trade bans when an exporting country reports its first case of BSE, without having conducted a risk analysis as described in the Code. Such situations penalise countries with a good and transparent surveillance system for animal diseases and zoonoses, and which have demonstrated their ability to control the risks identified. This may result in a reluctance to report future cases and an increased likelihood of disease spread internationally.
January 2004
This is brought to you straight from the OIE web page
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Tam Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 8696 Location: Sask
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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TAM:"Rancher you make it sound as if there were hundreds infected 4 were in a herd of MILLIONS now that really brings to mind a MAJOR PROBLEM doesn't it?"
I see your point Tam, but how do either of us know that hundreds DIDN'T go into the food chain? We don't! I mean US and Canada.
Rancher has a point, there must have been something going on in Alberta at one point in time. BTW, was the 1993 cow in Alberta? Just wondering. |
So now we are counting the maybes to qualify this as a MAJOR problem are we?
Maybe there was something going on in Alberta, maybe not, maybe at least one UK cow got into the feed supply undetected. Can't say that was what caused it for sure, as there are some out there that would disagree with the known science that says it is spread by ruminants eating infected tissue of another ruminant and say its contagious, or it could be enviromental or it just happens spontaneously, so to play it safe I will say maybe it was the feed. But, We have found 4 BSE cases in a herd of 5.5 million OTM cattle so far. If he considers that a MAJOR problem what does he think the UK has? Canada agrees we have a problem do we consider ours MAJOR in comparison to other countries, I don't think so.
And I'm glad to see you admit you don't know how many made it into the US food chain. IS there a major problem brewing there?
About the 1993 case I'm pretty sure she was on a farm in Sask when she was found.
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Tam Rancher

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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry missed this Mike
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| I say a feed plant in the area had a major problem they didn't know about to get that many cattle in the area showing problems. |
Do you think he was talking about the ones that we don't know about or the ones we do? again we had 3 showing problems in Alberta which has a herd of millions and that was in just under two years and 1 showing problems in the US.
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Mike Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 16951 Location: Montgomery, Al
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Sandhusker Rancher

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Mike Rancher

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Kato Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 2560 Location: Manitoba - At the end of the road
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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FYI, here are a few responses posted on Japan Today to the story of the new rule to be proposed by the U.S.
Unlimited Self-opinionated Arrogance.
kasumi (Mar 5 2005 - 09:14)
“The proposal will feature measures prohibiting nations from imposing a blanket ban on beef imports from countries where cases of mad cow disease have been found”
“By a 52-46 margin, senators approved a bipartisan resolution to strike down a U.S. Department of Agriculture's regulation lifting a 22-month-old trade ban that has cost Canada's beef industry $7-billion.
The Senate vote came one day after a Montana judge granted an injunction, at the request of R-CALF United Stockgrowers of America, to block plans to allow Canada to resume exports of live cattle under 30 months of age on March 7.
Judge Cebull ruled U.S. beef would be hit with a "stigma" of BSE infection if Canadian animals are allowed to mix with the American herd. A delay in re-opening the border would be "prudent and largely harmless," he continued.”
It would look like the US needs to get it’s own house in order before it tries to blackmail & threaten others.
Maybe Japan is just being “prudent” & the consequences are likely to be largely harmless. Well who are we none-Americans to argue with the wisdom of a US judge?
Are we back to the Henry Ford principle of selling cars, you can have any colour of car you like, so long as it is black?
Japan wants all the beef tested & if the US wants to sell beef to Japan there is one very, very, very simple answer. Test it.
Amen, Kasumi!
noharness (Mar 5 2005 - 09:1
Well said.
U.S. to propose new int'l rule on beef trade
Nessie (Mar 5 2005 - 09:44)
So much for splendid isolation.
Kasumi
fazool2 (Mar 5 2005 - 10:27)
Lucid, logical, researched, well presented and pertinent.
Pretty rare to nail them all on this board; thanks.
Yes this looks pretty silly
Its OK (Mar 5 2005 - 11:26)
I have been unable to find more on the new Proposal. But it appears from this article that the Senate wants to rebuild trade to Asia before opening up the border to Canadian beef again.
"While some senators questioned Canadian safeguards, others like Wyoming Republican Craig Thomas said U.S. beef exports to Asia should be rebuilt before Canadian cattle were allowed."
http://www.reuters.ca/locales/c_newsArticle.jsp;:42278392:5b817ab1e962f361?type=topNews&localeKey=en_CA&storyID=7801457
Still it looks a little like we are putting the cart before the horse. Also the vote not to open up the border for younger Canadian cattle was just passed today.
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Mike Rancher

Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 16951 Location: Montgomery, Al
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I like the title:
"Unlimited Self-opinionated Arrogance"
If the shoe fits.............
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