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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject: "M"COOL - "a good law" Leo??????? Reply with quote

This is too funny!

Leo McDonnel claims that "M"COOL is a good law as it's written.

Ahh....ok?

"M"COOL as written exempts food service which constitutes 75% of the imported beef into this country which leaves 5% of our domestic U.S. beef consumption potentially labeled as imported beef under a normal trade situation.

Ok, now Leo says that USDA should follow the model of the school lunch program for "M"COOL implementation.

Ahh.....ok?

The school lunch program only considers imported beef and cattle that are imported for direct slaughter as "U.S. product".

Now that we have exempted Canadian feeder cattle that are fed in the United States from being labeled as "imported", which contradicts the "born, raised, and slaughtered" designation of "M"COOL proponents were chirping about yesterday, we are down to about 2.5% of our U.S. beef consumption labeled as imported????

But wait, there's more........

If that 2.5% happens to be channeled into "food service", there would LEGALLY be no imported beef or cattle labeled as imported.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

R-CALF's ignorance never ends!



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see here...

GAO says "good law". SH says "bad law". Who do believe? Now who would have the most credibility here? Say what? Laughing

You're right, SH. Ignorance never ends. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandhusker wrote:
Lets see here...

GAO says "good law". SH says "bad law". Who do believe? Now who would have the most credibility here? Say what? Laughing

You're right, SH. Ignorance never ends. Rolling Eyes


I would be surprised if there is any one bill that passes congress that "EVERYONE" agrees on. Many times laws are enacted after being "watered down" to get through the system, then tweaked over time to get all the kinks out. Many go through the court process and take years to finalize.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see R-CULT says "good law" and USDA, THE AGENCY THAT IS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THIS LAW, says "unenforceable".

Who are we to believe??? We know R-CULT lies continually. Hmmmmmm????? Such a difficult decision.

Did anyone see Sandhusker bring anything to support his position on this issue???

Neither did I!

What I have presented is factual and that's why Sandhusker offered nothing to contradict it, AS USUAL.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:31 am Post subject:

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Sandhusker wrote:
Lets see here...

GAO says "good law". SH says "bad law". Who do believe? Now who would have the most credibility here?

You're right, SH. Ignorance never ends.

Mike sayes
"I would be surprised if there is any one bill that passes congress that "EVERYONE" agrees on. Many times laws are enacted after being "watered down" to get through the system, then tweaked over time to get all the kinks out. Many go through the court process and take years to finalize"
I think Leo's "Good law"is 100 gallons of water and one drop of good bourbon.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Lots of yap here lately about how this whole thing is a battle over COOL.

Let's just say for a moment Oldtimer, that multinational packers don't really give a rats ass where they find their cattle, which is somewhat evidenced by the fact that Canadian beef carasses cross the line labeled and then loose the label somewhere along the line.

But maybe, all these childish protectionist tactics that you Rcalf boys have been pulling has been pissing the packers off. In fact maybe they are beginning to dislike Rcalf the way Rcalf seems to dislike the packers.

Maybe soon they will start to make a choice. When the opportuntiy arrives, maybe they will not choose what you bunch of not nicebackwards dorks consider the American way, and will let your cattle sit on your pristine little ranches until they decide they have enough Canadian cattle for now.

Wake up and smell the roses, progression is the future. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rkaiser...When the opportuntiy arrives, maybe they will not choose what you bunch of not nicebackwards dorks consider the American way, and will let your cattle sit on your pristine little ranches until they decide they have enough Canadian cattle for now.

This sounds like when they threatened to move their plants to other countries. They didn't do that, it was only a scare tactic. Do you suggest we all register at our local sale barns if we are R-CALF or NCBA members so the buyers will know?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

~SH~ wrote:
Let's see R-CULT says "good law" and USDA, THE AGENCY THAT IS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THIS LAW, says "unenforceable".

Who are we to believe??? We know R-CULT lies continually. Hmmmmmm????? Such a difficult decision.
Response; What is R-CULT? I did a google search and came up dry.

Did anyone see Sandhusker bring anything to support his position on this issue???
Response; Other than the fact that the GAO said it was a good law? I didn't say it was a good law, the GAO did - you know the GAO - the folks who deal with laws for a living. But, we are to hold a varminteer's biased opinion over the GAO, yep, makes sense to me! Rolling Eyes

Neither did I!

What I have presented is factual and that's why Sandhusker offered nothing to contradict it, AS USUAL.
Response: What you have presented is your hyper biased opinion. I contradicted your opinion with information that the GAO said it was a good law. You chose to ignore what you didn't like, AS USUAL. Wink




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wink Tommy, why would you not tell everyone in the world that you are a member of Rcalf. Pretty proud of that flag you fly as you avator, you must have pride in your chosen group as well. Why not make a list of all Rcalf members for me and other Canadians who have done a lot of business in the States and might not want to deal with people who hate our guts. If the packers happen to get a hold of the list,,,,, oh well. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SH, your world is full of liars and deceivers; Leo says it is a good law and he is lying. The GAO says it is a good law - are they lying also? Razz


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile Any way you could lead me to a list of members Sandhusker? You guys are fun to argue with, but I would sure like to know who I am dealing with when trade with the USA starts up again.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't be to hard to figure out Randy just take note of the supporters of R-CALF when one of these guys post another fund raising success story and you will have a pretty good Idea of who you don't want to do business with. If we have to read them we should as least get something more than a headache out of them. I saw on one of the posts that one of the stores I use to drive down to the US to shop at was supporting them so I doubt I'll be back more than once to let them know why I won't be back again. Also noticed that a dealer of a Canadian industry supported them but I doubt he is a dealer anymore after he was turn in to the Head office in Calgary. I just hope the US producers are also taking note and boycotting some of these places, as I hope there are alot more in the US that don't support the lies of R-CALF than those that do. And these businesses will realize that R-CALF members are not the only ones in their town they are supplying.


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