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theHiredMansWife
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.

You don't have to.
If someone's been riding in the same saddle for 10 years, it's going to show some wear. Get a saddle you've been riding in for 20,30 or even 40 years and it's going to be really obvious. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.

You don't have to.
If someone's been riding in the same saddle for 10 years, it's going to show some wear. Get a saddle you've been riding in for 20,30 or even 40 years and it's going to be really obvious. Smile


I switch stirrups all the time. Oxbows for colts, roping stirrups for the rest and oversize winter stirrups for the other six months.
My stirrups tend to wear on the sides? the saddles get traded in before ten years.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I trade stirrups only when I lose one. lol
And our newest saddle is somewhere between 15 and 20 years old... Just gettin' broke in. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just a thought on stirrup wear.
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.


I was taught to keep about 60 percent of your weight in the stirrups and not set flat on your ass. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Faster Horses;

I just heard that Tom and Toni bought a place over around Sundance and are planning on starting colts and training horses there.

Tom is as good a horseman or all round hand as there is!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jinglebob wrote:
RoperAB wrote:
Just a thought on stirrup wear.
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.


I was taught to keep about 60 percent of your weight in the stirrups and not set flat on your ass. Shocked



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I would recomend that you get a different trainer. 20% weight in the stirrups would be plenty. I cant see any pro trainer telling you different.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
I trade stirrups only when I lose one. lol
And our newest saddle is somewhere between 15 and 20 years old... Just gettin' broke in. Wink


LOL Good saddles start off in price at about $3000 in AB. If you make your living in one they are going to need to be rebuilt before ten years. I guess they make better saddles in your area?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RoperAB wrote:
Jinglebob wrote:
RoperAB wrote:
Just a thought on stirrup wear.
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.


I was taught to keep about 60 percent of your weight in the stirrups and not set flat on your ass. Shocked



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I would recomend that you get a different trainer. 20% weight in the stirrups would be plenty. I cant see any pro trainer telling you different.


The advice didn't come from a "pro trainer" but a pro cowboy who rode good horses lots of miles and sure enough was mounted. His horses showed it too.

Maybe 60 % is a bit much, but if you ain't going to use your stirrups except for mounting aids, and only to stop yourself from falling off, they ain't doing much good, are they? Wink

And I agree that a well made saddle might only last 10 years if you are using it hard everyday. Tho' seems like, most around here don't ride enough to wear one out, in their lifetime.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
if you're just sitting in it most of the time, what would be wearing out?


If you rope pretty often, that's another story, entirely. That's a lot of stress on the tree (though I would rather rebuild an existing saddle than buy new)

I have a grandpa-in-law that still rides most days in a saddle he got from *his* dad. But he doesn't rope in it if he can avoid it...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
theHiredMansWife wrote:
if you're just sitting in it most of the time, what would be wearing out?


If you rope pretty often, that's another story, entirely. That's a lot of stress on the tree (though I would rather rebuild an existing saddle than buy new)

I have a grandpa-in-law that still rides most days in a saddle he got from *his* dad. But he doesn't rope in it if he can avoid it...


Stirrup leathers and latigo's are usually the first thing that needs replaced, around here. If your using one very hard, pieces get torn off or things get ripped up. Usually you will see wear in the fork cover, where the rope hangs. Back billets and latigo's get old, thin and crack. Also the hobble strap between the two cincha's. Any moving part will get worn from usage and lack of oil and sand and dirt getting deep into the leather and causing stress......Want me to quit now? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
RoperAB wrote:
Jinglebob wrote:
RoperAB wrote:
Just a thought on stirrup wear.
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.


I was taught to keep about 60 percent of your weight in the stirrups and not set flat on your ass. Shocked



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I would recomend that you get a different trainer. 20% weight in the stirrups would be plenty. I cant see any pro trainer telling you different.


I take back what I said. I went out today and porposely tried riding with putting weight in my stirrups. Even 20% is to much.
There is no way to ride properly and put weight in those stirrups!
Anything more than the weight of your foot and leg relaxed creates a brace. The more weight you put in that strirrup the bigger the brace!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jinglebob wrote:
RoperAB wrote:
Jinglebob wrote:
RoperAB wrote:
Just a thought on stirrup wear.
Unless your roping or doing a slide stop. Yah really should not be putting much weight in your stirrups.


I was taught to keep about 60 percent of your weight in the stirrups and not set flat on your ass. Shocked



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I would recomend that you get a different trainer. 20% weight in the stirrups would be plenty. I cant see any pro trainer telling you different.


The advice didn't come from a "pro trainer" but a pro cowboy who rode good horses lots of miles and sure enough was mounted. His horses showed it too.

Maybe 60 % is a bit much, but if you ain't going to use your stirrups except for mounting aids, and only to stop yourself from falling off, they ain't doing much good, are they? Wink

And I agree that a well made saddle might only last 10 years if you are using it hard everyday. Tho' seems like, most around here don't ride enough to wear one out, in their lifetime.


You know I find its actually easier for people to learn to ride without stirrups.
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