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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: NCBA Reply with quote

Has anyone noticed that since Chandler Keys left that NCBA is starting to come around, that and losing members? SH hasn't called NCBA a liar for saying "There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease,"


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you be more specific Rancher?

What do you mean "coming around"???

NCBA isn't lying about the safety of Canadian beef.

NCBA isn't "bwaming packahs" with no proof of the allegations.

NCBA isn't supporting your flawed "M"COOL law that exempts 75% of the imports and prohibits the means to enforce it.

NCBA isn't supporting the communist packer ban.


Could you be more specific?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease,"


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rancher wrote:
"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease,"


There are some Canadians that have certainly taken exception to that NCBA comment but most are not surprised. Some of us were pleased to read that statement as it finally forced CCA to admit that NCBA is not the sister org they were leading us to believe.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote: "There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease,"

Before I would judge that statement, I would ask for specifics. What did they mean by "all that we've done"???

On the surface, that statement appears arrogant but I also don't trust any R-CALFer to report NCBA quotes within the context they were intended.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rancher wrote:
"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease,"

i'd like to be enlightened on the measures taken by the usa that canada hasn't taken. not trying to be smart but we are always talking traceback, testing per centages, 4d's. where has usda gone the extra mile?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SH, will post again just for you, it was a NCBA release

NCBA Pushes For "Provisionally Free" BSE Status
The National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) is urging USDA to seek the "Provisionally Free" designation for the U.S. from the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE). NCBA says such a designation "will provide additional assurance to our trading partners that U.S. cattle and beef are safe from BSE."

In a letter sent Wednesday to USDA Secretary Mike Johanns, NCBA says the designation is consistent with OIE's 2004 Terrestrial Animal Health Code because the U.S. meets all criteria. The letter says the trade disruption has amounted to U.S. cattle losses of more than $175/head and exceeding $4.5 billion in cumulative income losses.

NCBA points out the two decades of work in analyzing the risks of BSE and instituting firewalls dating back to 1989. Among these are surveillance programs that exceed OIE requirements, says Gary Weber, NCBA's executive director of regulatory affairs.

"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease," the letter says.
-- NCBA news release


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCBA:"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease," the letter says."

That's one of those statements that we all know is a lie yet so ridiculous that no one will even address it.

Those kind of statements are called "Falsehoods". Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SH for one that says he does his homework you sure don't keep up on your org. Here it is from the horse's mouth.
Confused Confused Shocked Shocked
http://hill.beef.org/ncba/view.asp?DocumentID=14716 Confused


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rancher wrote:
SH, will post again just for you, it was a NCBA release

NCBA Pushes For "Provisionally Free" BSE Status
The National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) is urging USDA to seek the "Provisionally Free" designation for the U.S. from the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE). NCBA says such a designation "will provide additional assurance to our trading partners that U.S. cattle and beef are safe from BSE."

In a letter sent Wednesday to USDA Secretary Mike Johanns, NCBA says the designation is consistent with OIE's 2004 Terrestrial Animal Health Code because the U.S. meets all criteria. The letter says the trade disruption has amounted to U.S. cattle losses of more than $175/head and exceeding $4.5 billion in cumulative income losses.


NCBA points out the two decades of work in analyzing the risks of BSE and instituting firewalls dating back to 1989. Among these are surveillance programs that exceed OIE requirements, says Gary Weber, NCBA's executive director of regulatory affairs.

"There is no country in the world that has done all that we've done to prevent this disease," the letter says.
-- NCBA news release


Thanks rancher that's exactly the same as the one I saw and I sure as hell am no R-calfer. As I wrote above, now at least NCBAs true thoughts are out in the open.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"it illustrates even more profoundly why one imported cow with BSE should not have affected our BSE status or our international trade status. "

That was NCBA talking present, the flop part, the flip part was we are a North American Beef Industry, the other countries know we have Canadian cattle in our herd and will not treat us different. Boy, members spoke and the leaders had to follow.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCBA President Jan Lyons expected debate on a staff directive that supplements an existing policy supporting normalization of cattle and meat trade with Canada. It didn’t happen. Several state delegations traded what one NCBA staff member said were up to 25 drafts of the short-term policy.

“I do believe there has been a lot of discussion on this,” Lyons said in an interview after the directive flew through a directors’ meeting the morning of Feb. 6.

The directive tells NCBA’s lobbying staff to push the U.S. government to seek resumption of beef export trade with Japan and South Korea, and restoration of pre-BSE beef export rules in Mexico before NCBA supports normalization of Canadian trade.

Observers said the NCBA stance is similar to R-CALF policy passed three weeks ago in a Denver convention. The marked difference is that R-CALF is in federal court asking a judge to invalidate the USDA rule. NCBA will make its points through lobbying the Bush administration and members of Congress.


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