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Hanta Yo
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't just the towers taken down.. Don't forget about the airliners headed for the Pentagon and White House. Do you think those people gave their lives for nothing? They were truly heroes. I don't see the little black helicopters involved with that one. Exclamation I guess 9/11 has been too far past and people are forgetting, including you, 3023 and frankk.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reader (the Second) wrote:
Well X, they have united you, me, and likely HMW and Kola Laughing Laughing

I know that the Muslims claim that the Israelis are behind the WTC but until someone on this thread pointed me to a Canadian conspiracy talk radio show, I didn't realize that anyone in the Western world questioned that the WTC was flown into by two enormous jet fuel laden commercial aircraft. Unbelievable. Of course all of us who saw it either firsthand or on video as it happened almost are dupes Exclamation Mad




Here's you a few more public radio and websites.

www.jonesreport.com
http://www.gcnlive.com/
http://www.rbnlive.com/
www.prisonplanet.com
www.infowar.com
http://www.womensgroup.org/




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"Crisis Reaction Solution"


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reader (the Second) wrote:
Well X, they have united you, me, and likely HMW and Kola Laughing Laughing

I know that the Muslims claim that the Israelis are behind the WTC but until someone on this thread pointed me to a Canadian conspiracy talk radio show, I didn't realize that anyone in the Western world questioned that the WTC was flown into by two enormous jet fuel laden commercial aircraft. Unbelievable. Of course all of us who saw it either firsthand or on video as it happened almost are dupes Exclamation Mad




When the world trade centers were hit, our government was running a terrorist assault similation training program, this was how they accomplished their test without being caught. Because of the test similation it created confusion with air traiffic control and all threat air craft responding were instructed not to respond.


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"Crisis Reaction Solution"


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X wrote:


T3023 wrote:
You know...it says in the end ...... The truth will be revealed.

I know...it reveals that you and Frankk ..... Are both goofballs.


Well I'm not so much of a goofball as to believe that you can fly a plane into a building designed for extremely high wind and and accidental plane crashes and knock them down plus one completely unconnected. T3023 give one theory whats yours, remember tower two free fell, blows that pancake theory


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanta Yo wrote:
It wasn't just the towers taken down.. Don't forget about the airliners headed for the Pentagon and White House. Do you think those people gave their lives for nothing? They were truly heroes. I don't see the little black helicopters involved with that one. Exclamation I guess 9/11 has been too far past and people are forgetting, including you, 3023 and frankk.


No I'm not forgetting, I'm pondering as how the hole in the petagon could be smaller than the jet that supposely flew into it


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanta Yo wrote:
It wasn't just the towers taken down.. Don't forget about the airliners headed for the Pentagon and White House. Do you think those people gave their lives for nothing? They were truly heroes. I don't see the little black helicopters involved with that one. Exclamation I guess 9/11 has been too far past and people are forgetting, including you, 3023 and frankk.




There was no aircraft ever found at the Pentagon. This was on the final report of the governments explanation, " the air craft disintegrate." How can you disintegrate 12 ton's of aluminum.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T3023 wrote:
Hanta Yo wrote:
It wasn't just the towers taken down.. Don't forget about the airliners headed for the Pentagon and White House. Do you think those people gave their lives for nothing? They were truly heroes. I don't see the little black helicopters involved with that one. Exclamation I guess 9/11 has been too far past and people are forgetting, including you, 3023 and frankk.




There was no aircraft ever found at the Pentagon. This was on the final report of the governments explanation, " the air craft disintegrate." How can you disintegrate 12 ton's of aluminum.



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"Crisis Reaction Solution"


I personally know individuals who work for my company in the Pentagon who saw the jet engine hurled down the corridor in the Pentagon from the crash and who got jet fuel on them. Give it em, there were thousands of eye witnesses and videotapes.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reader (the Second) wrote:
T3023 wrote:
Hanta Yo wrote:
It wasn't just the towers taken down.. Don't forget about the airliners headed for the Pentagon and White House. Do you think those people gave their lives for nothing? They were truly heroes. I don't see the little black helicopters involved with that one. Exclamation I guess 9/11 has been too far past and people are forgetting, including you, 3023 and frankk.




There was no aircraft ever found at the Pentagon. This was on the final report of the governments explanation, " the air craft disintegrate." How can you disintegrate 12 ton's of aluminum.



Three Words
"Crisis Reaction Solution"


I personally know individuals who work for my company in the Pentagon who saw the jet engine hurled down the corridor in the Pentagon from the crash and who got jet fuel on them. Give it em, there were thousands of eye witnesses and videotapes.



All that I saw in the vidios was an APU Turbine setting on the front lawn and there is still no way 12 tons of aluminum can just disintegrate and with that kind of impact, Kersoine would vaporize quicker than aluminum would disintegrate. If 12 tons of aluminum will disintegrate, I can guarantee 10 thousand pounds of Kerosine would vaporize or combust before it would flow.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, R2, there's no room to argue your point. Period. If 3023 and frankk still want to talk black helicopters, I guess let them. Besides, 3023 is starting to sound familiar......... Exclamation


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanta Yo wrote:
Thanks, R2, there's no room to argue your point. Period. If 3023 and frankk still want to talk black helicopters, I guess let them. Besides, 3023 is starting to sound familiar......... Exclamation



Well, since I am nuts, and a wacko, then I don't mind saying this either. Take a look at the Oklahoma building as well, because I believe that our government had their finger in on that Catastrophic event; also the first world trade center bombing. Did you know the CIA, MI6 and KGB were all created from the Nazi SS.

"So now I am crazy, but I can live with that!
"I want my country back"!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want our country back, too. Gov. Lamm (Colorado) gave a famous speech, because of this speech I will claim coming from Colorado. This is what it says:

A Frightening Analysis

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration — both legal and illegal — was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.

A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

"E. Pluribus Unum" — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'x! xenophobes' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause.

A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America — take note of California and other states — to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

Origins: Richard D. Lamm was a Democrat who served as governor of Colorado for twelve years from 1975 to 1987. Of the above-quoted third person account regarding his speech on the perils of multiculturalism, he told us in mid-June 2005:


Yes, it is a speech I gave a year and a half ago in Washington D.C. It was a 5 minute speech, and I am amazed and gratified it has received so much coverage.


IMHO:
This guy was a democrat, but hit every nail on the head the first time.

WE ARE THERE, AMERICA


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well...here is my 2 cents....as far as i am concerned, anyone who actually thinks our government would intentionaly murder its own people, like the wtc or OK fed bldg.........what are you on anyway? Do us all a favor and move to whatever country you think would be better suited to your ideas. I am sure your also against the war in Iraq and the war on terror, i am sure you feel we are not justified for being in iraq or afganastan and i am sure you feel we, the USA is of fault and instigated the murder of thousands of people at those places....i am sure we brought all this on our selves......do us all a favor and leave. move somewhere you may be wanted, please pickup the racist Cynthia Mckinney on your way out and dont let the door hit you in the butt! Our government is so corrupt you just need to go find one that will treat you better...........

There........i vented!


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