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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care what it makes me, if I were in Texas I would vote for Kinky.

He's funny, talented, and irreverent (and smart) (and honest). That makes him unlike any politician I have seen in 40+ years.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's that "and honest" part is what draws people to him. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBJ wrote:
Yeah like thats gonna happen Nod


So unlike jinglebob's sarcasm, you actually think we should maintain the status quo? You find nothing wrong with the political parties currently in control?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theHiredMansWife wrote:
BBJ wrote:
Yeah like thats gonna happen Nod


So unlike jinglebob's sarcasm, you actually think we should maintain the status quo? You find nothing wrong with the political parties currently in control?


There will be always be problems with the system. I don't care if we have 500 parties, it will never be perfect. And much like the gas price problem everyone is complaining about, when the people get fed up they will make the change. Even if it means a thrid party. Wink Or walking to work?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"walk to work?" You must live in town...

I'm 30 miles from work, myself. Though this fall I'll be lucky enough to only be 12.

So far as a third party and the demands of the people, that's precisely what the initial opinion piece was about and the subsequent replies. There obviously are people who are interested in making a change.

And no one is looking for perfection. The question was about maintaining the status quo.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

theHiredMansWife wrote:
"walk to work?" You must live in town...

I'm 30 miles from work, myself. Though this fall I'll be lucky enough to only be 12.

So far as a third party and the demands of the people, that's precisely what the initial opinion piece was about and the subsequent replies. There obviously are people who are interested in making a change.

And no one is looking for perfection. The question was about maintaining the status quo.


<sarcasm> Wink I'm always amazed when complete strangers know me so much better than I know myself.

Heard that before?

No I don't live in town. I know you "think" since I don't participate in the ranching threads here that I'm a city boy, but to tell you the truth I live 37 miles from my house to work. Smile Nice try though Razz


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, your comparison would be accurate if you corrected me and told me you didn't live in town. But for a few months I kept arguing with you that you did. Laughing

Frankly, I figured you lived in town because of your suggestion that someone should walk to work. Why make a suggestion that you yourself wouldn't do?

And since you missed it:
So far as a third party and the demands of the people, that's precisely what the initial opinion piece was about and the subsequent replies. There obviously are people who are interested in making a change.

And no one is looking for perfection. The question was about maintaining the status quo.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theHiredMansWife wrote:
No, your comparison would be accurate if you corrected me and told me you didn't live in town. But for a few months I kept arguing with you that you did. Laughing

Frankly, I figured you lived in town because of your suggestion that someone should walk to work. Why make a suggestion that you yourself wouldn't do?

And since you missed it:
So far as a third party and the demands of the people, that's precisely what the initial opinion piece was about and the subsequent replies. There obviously are people who are interested in making a change.

And no one is looking for perfection. The question was about maintaining the status quo.



Did you miss my post that said I live 37 miles from town? Say what? Confused

Again you assume something. Show me where I said I wouldn't go without gasoline?

WAITING................. on some proof...........


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proof of what??? Say what?
This?
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much like the gas price problem everyone is complaining about, when the people get fed up they will make the change. Even if it means a thrid party. Or walking to work?

What exactly are you arguing with that you need "proof"?

Frankly, I figured you lived in town because of your suggestion that someone should walk to work. Why make a suggestion that you yourself wouldn't do?

So far as a third party and the demands of the people, that's precisely what the initial opinion piece was about and the subsequent replies. There obviously are people who are interested in making a change.

And no one is looking for perfection. The question was about maintaining the status quo.
Do you wish to maintain the status quo?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing the way we vote is difficult in that by splitting the vote between candidates means that the other party has a better chance of winning...


if an "independant candidate" with views that appeared conservative, but moderated in tone such as "I own guns, believe in life at conception, favor small government with local control, oppose long-term welfare,"

and a conservative candidate, that strongly believes in Gun ownership, life at Conception and opposses abortion, favors small Goverment and tax cuts, and would abolish welfare,

would they not split the conservative vote.....leaving the liberal vote united on one candidate????


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It possibly would.
Both your independant candidate and your conservative one would get Republican votes. However, your moderate Independant candidate would also get Democratic votes (as evidenced by polls about McCain, for example).
From what I've read, there are more moderates in our country than either left or right wings. Whether they vote D or R one year or another depends on the political atmosphere of that election cycle. But it's a safe bet a moderate candidate would do quite well.

However, that's with the assumption that the independant would be a moderate. Ross Perot, for example was farther to the right than Bush in '92. Nader, farther left than Gore.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those of you that call those of those of us liberals haven't a clue. By true liberal standard (except for the open mindedness) most of us that are not always agreeing with all of you are conservative by most standards. Maybe just a little more open minded conservative then most. Wink


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