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canadian angus
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There is no risk of contracting BSE from consuming beef from animals younger than 30 months of age. This fact, coupled with the fact that Canada had instituted a ruminant feed ban nearly 6 years prior to finding their first case of BSE (thereby removing the threat of amplification of the disease in the Canadian herd) meant there was no scientific justification for keeping the beef out. Canadian beef imports are now equivalent to pre-BSE levels. How have we "lost" anything? We are merely back to where we were before the first case was found. Your question reveals your true motive and the motive of many R-CALF supporters. It has nothing to do with science-based decisions or fair dealings with trade partners; it has everything to do with protectionism, pure and simple.
Maybe a more revealing question is whether R-CALF has calculated how much U.S. producers will lose due to loss of consumer confidence by their raising unwarranted fears about the safety of beef, and by interfering with the process of establishing science-based protocols for international trade.
Don Hineman
Dighton, KS
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I loved the statement by this NCBA "expert"-one of the Canadian inspection team---"NO RISK of contracting BSE from consuming beef from animals younger than 30 months of age". I wonder which study he found that says that? I have read dozens of reports by scientific groups--None of them say NO RISK... maybe little, or minimal, or slight, or as several say unknown-- no others say absolutely no risk....Makes you wonder if any NCBA members have read the studies about finding prions in under thirty month cattle, or in nerves in muscle meat, or in infected internal organs?
Now I know why they had decided the border should be opened before NCBA sent them on their 3 day vacation in Canada- "NCBA science"....
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Mike
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Reader(2):"OT - I also find this guy's statement reprehensible in that he was sent as an "expert." It's just wrong."
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I have poked around on that forum for awhile now. That same guy was posting about Japan's 2 UTM's testing positive. He said that the test used by Japan was not accurate and is unreliable!
Little does he know that there are three labs in the world accredited by the OIE and one of them is in Japan! Stanley Prusiner verified the 21 month old himself. They use the Prionic's Test because IHC cannot detect cases subclinical.
If this guy is an NCBA "EXPERT" we are in big trouble.
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Kato
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| Eating 'beef', or eating SRM's? There's a difference.
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canadian angus
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Seems a bunch of you missed the point, r-calf is still spreading poison and just don't get it.
Canadian Angus
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Mike
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Seems a bunch of you missed the point, r-calf is still spreading poison and just don't get it.
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The Point is:
You hear what you want to hear, you hear? and
You see what you want to see, you see?
From "The Point" by Harry Nilsson
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" loved the statement by this NCBA "expert"-one of the Canadian inspection team---"NO RISK of contracting BSE from consuming beef from animals younger than 30 months of age". I wonder which study he found that says that? I have read dozens of reports by scientific groups--None of them say NO RISK... maybe little, or minimal, or slight, or as several say unknown-- no others say absolutely no risk....Makes you wonder if any NCBA members have read the studies about finding prions in under thirty month cattle, or in nerves in muscle meat, or in infected internal organs? "
So, SH, is the NCBA lying here?
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canadian angus
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Yes you hear what you want to hear and read what you want to read.
Remember you are always right.........right. Laugh a lot.
Canadian Angus
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canadian angus
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And test what you want to test.......Laugh a lot.
Canadian Angus and yes my cattle are BSE free.
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Cal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Interesting Read |
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[I loved the statement by this NCBA "expert"-one of the Canadian inspection team---"NO RISK of contracting BSE from consuming beef from animals younger than 30 months of age". I wonder which study he found that says that? I have read dozens of reports by scientific groups--None of them say NO RISK... maybe little, or minimal, or slight, or as several say unknown-- no others say absolutely no risk....Makes you wonder if any NCBA members have read the studies about finding prions in under thirty month cattle, or in nerves in muscle meat, or in infected internal organs?
Now I know why they had decided the border should be opened before NCBA sent them on their 3 day vacation in Canada- "NCBA science".... |
Oldtimer, just wondering if you've got some horse meat you're trying to sell?
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Oldtimer
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Japanese science says even under TWENTY month cattle have a "negligible to "very small" risk.. I guess it is only NCBA science that finds under THIRTY month to be "no risk".......
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/newse/20050317wo32.htm
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~SH~
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OT: "I loved the statement by this NCBA "expert"-one of the Canadian inspection team---"NO RISK of contracting BSE from consuming beef from animals younger than 30 months of age". I wonder which study he found that says that? I have read dozens of reports by scientific groups--None of them say NO RISK... maybe little, or minimal, or slight, or as several say unknown-- no others say absolutely no risk....Makes you wonder if any NCBA members have read the studies about finding prions in under thirty month cattle, or in nerves in muscle meat, or in infected internal organs?"
Still trying to defend R-CULT's stupidity and BSE fear mongering huh OT?
Keep drinking that Kool Aid!
Between the feed ban compliance, increased BSE surveilance testing, removal of positive animals from the food chain and SRM removal, according to the BSE sciece accepted the world over, there is NO RISK!
"minimal, slight, and unknown" as stated by less accepted research is just enough blood in the water to create an R-CULT feeding frenzy while risking the integrity of our own beef supply. R-CULT couldn't be any more ignorant.
R-CULT's concerns for food safety are as evident as "M"ID prohibited from "M"COOL. R-CULT is simply using BSE "fear mongering" as their catalyst to keep the Canadian border closed to live cattle and fooling noone in the process.
This latest add in the Washington Post is their new all time low. They just keep lowering the bar. Absolute total insanity.
How can anyone be so mindless as to support their ignorant actions is beyond my comprehension.
~SH~
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