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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Domestic demand Reply with quote

U.S. cattle producers may recall Dec. 23, 2003, as the day that rocked their beef world.

A dairy cow infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy was discovered in Washington state; the animal's origin was traced to Canada.

It was during a profitable year in the cattle industry and a record year for beef exports. But the export market went sour in a hurry.

Japan bought $1.4 billion in U.S. beef products during 2003 and nothing since, said Todd Domer, vice president of communications for the Kansas Livestock Association.

Total U.S. beef exports amounted to $3.86 billion in 2003, and 88 percent of that value was shipped to Japan, Mexico, South Korea and Canada. A portion of the Mexico and Canada markets have returned, he said.

The U.S. cattle industry remains profitable, thanks to Americans eating more beef.

"Domestic demand was strong," Domer said.

Beef prices would have been higher, he said, but the Japanese boycott offset some of the domestic shortages of beef that were driving up prices.

Demand for beef continues to climb. In 2004, it was 7.7 percent above 2003. Increases from 1998 through 2004 added $22 per 100 pounds to the price of fed cattle, he said, quoting CattleFax, an industry market analysis service.

Trendy low-carbohydrate diets have changed nutritional perceptions about beef, Domer said, and the industry has developed new products to make beef more convenient.

Cattle producers enjoyed good profits in 2004, said Mike Samples, manager of the Farmers & Ranchers Livestock Commission, 1500 W. Highway 40. Farmers & Ranchers sells approximately 200,000 cattle a year and is among the largest cattle auctions in Kansas, second only to Pratt Livestock.

"For the first time ever in the history of the cattle business, all facets of the industry have enjoyed some profits," he said.

Domestic cow numbers are still down and beef consumption, Samples said: "We should maintain good times in the cattle business."

The only variables are Canada and Japan.

Since 2003, the United States has opened the Canadian border and is accepting beef from cattle under 30 months of age. The risk of BSE is higher in older cattle, Domer said. It rarely is found in younger animals.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has proposed opening the Canadian border to live cattle this month. Neither beef from cattle slaughtered when they were older than 30 months nor cattle older than that will be accepted from Canada, Domer said.

To win back Japan as a U.S. beef customer, he said, "You name it, we've done it."

The USDA sent technical and scientific teams to Japan, and the Kansas Livestock Association, Kansas Beef Council and National Cattlemen's Beef Association played host to Japanese delegations in the United States.

The goal was to "show them the protocols that are in place to prevent BSE," Domer said. "The one thing you have to remember is Japan made some pretty major mistakes from a regulatory nature."

After the first BSE case surfaced in Japan in the fall of 2001, that government was slow in banning the inclusion of protein from ruminant animals -- meat and bone meal -- in cattle feed. That's been banned in the United States since 1997, Domer said.

Cattle can catch BSE from eating feed including protein from infected animals.

Looking ahead, cattle ranchers should remember what they learned in 4-H and FFA when they were youngsters. Record-keeping, especially documenting the age of cattle, is becoming more important, said Carl Garten, director of Central Kansas Extension District, Salina.

"I've had a lot of cattlemen call me about proving calving dates," he said. "The future of the industry is going to depend on the identification of livestock, confirmation of birth and age."

Samples isn't opposed to an identification system but said "country of origin" labeling should come first.

"The American consumer has the right to know, when they buy a package of meat, where it came from," he said.

A bill mandating country of origin has continually stalled in Congress, Samples said, in part because the National Cattlemen's Beef Association is opposed to it.

"The problem is that packers don't want it. They can blend imported meat in with our meat," Samples said. "The NCBA and other livestock groups seem to be in that corner."

MAD COW DISEASE

BSE, or mad cow disease, is a neurological disease in cattle. Humans who eat beef from infected cattle rarely get the potentially deadly variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, Domer said.

No cases of Americans being infected have been reported, he said, other than one in the United States that originated in the United Kingdom, where BSE has been around since 1986. The United Kingdom has had 151 cases of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is a rare, usually fatal disease of the brain, characterized by progressive dementia and gradual loss of muscle control. It occurs most often in middle age and is caused by a slow virus, according to a dictionary


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Samples should have been asked how mandatory COOL is possible without M-ID. Arguing about which should come first, the chicken or the egg, is like twiddling ones thumbs......doing something, and accomplishing nothing.

I don't know if it is factual that country of origin labeling hasn't happened because of NCBA........but I would be pleased if that is so.

Personally, it seems misguided to legislate origin labeling when it is available, and is being used. There are US cattle producers, individually and in groups, who already are labeling their beef as a verifiable product of the USA via their branded beef label. They are getting paid for the added value of that information by consumers to whom it is important. Didn't require legislation. Didn't require bureaucracy additions to implement. Just good private enterprise. What a concept!


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Here is the current Country of Origin Labeling resolution from the current mail ballot of NCBA.

WHEREAS, NCBA supports voluntary, market-driven country of origin labeling for beef products sold within the borders of the UNITED STATES, and

WHEREAS, any voluntary country of origin labeling law must not place too great a burden on domestic producers to prove the origin of their cattle, and

WHEREAS, H.R. 4576, as introduced in the 108th Congress, did not appear to seek to create a voluntary country of origin labeling program which would be any more workable than the voluntary program currently in place, and

WHEREAS, it should be the objective of Congress to amend the current country of origin labeling law so as to provide the maximum value of country of origin labeling to the beef cattle industry and to American consumers,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, NCBA shall ensure than any voluntary country of origin labeling law shall give specific attention to the following issues:

1. Self-certification of origin for livestock producers.
2. Protection of personal production records.
3. Simple, easy to understand, country of origin retail labels.
5. Tempering of penalties during implementation period.
6. Reconciliation with existing labeling regulations.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mj...WHEREAS, any voluntary country of origin labeling law must not place too great a burden on domestic producers to prove the origin of their cattle.

Aren't you one of the people who have always said we MCOOL supporters "didn't want to burdened with traceback"? Yet you seem to be supporting a Voluntary COOL that doesn't want to burden producers with a traceback. So if it is mandatory a traceback is needed and if it is voluntary a traceback is not needed?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy, I am sure signatures will work fine for Voluntary Say what?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah rancher we want mandatory traceback if we have MCOOL but voluntary traceback if we have voluntary COOL. Sounds good to me....hahhahaha


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, one needs to define "too great a burden".

Can we agree that requiring a veterinarian to certify that he/she had seen a calf born to a specific cow which had previously been A-I'd to a specific bull would be "too great a burden" as a requirement for proof or origin of a calf?

Can we agree that a written plan stating rancher X turns his bulls out with cows June 15 and and takes them out July 30; begins calving on or about March 15 and finishes about 45 days later; tags his calves using the mama's tag number as part of the number on the calf tag; would be a reasonable system of giving "proof" for this program?

Can we agree that similar programs validated by vaccine and other records/receipts for numbers of calves owned by the rancher could qualify?

Can we also agree that a rancher who sells X number of calves and simply signs a paper claiming he raised them, though he can't/won't offer any form of document to show evidence that he actually does own the cows, or that they gave birth to the calves he is currently offering for sale might not be a good candidate for a "signed affidavit" or any other "handshake" deal?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MRJ wrote:
First, one needs to define "too great a burden".

Can we agree that requiring a veterinarian to certify that he/she had seen a calf born to a specific cow which had previously been A-I'd to a specific bull would be "too great a burden" as a requirement for proof or origin of a calf?

Can we agree that a written plan stating rancher X turns his bulls out with cows June 15 and and takes them out July 30; begins calving on or about March 15 and finishes about 45 days later; tags his calves using the mama's tag number as part of the number on the calf tag; would be a reasonable system of giving "proof" for this program?

Can we agree that similar programs validated by vaccine and other records/receipts for numbers of calves owned by the rancher could qualify?

Can we also agree that a rancher who sells X number of calves and simply signs a paper claiming he raised them, though he can't/won't offer any form of document to show evidence that he actually does own the cows, or that they gave birth to the calves he is currently offering for sale might not be a good candidate for a "signed affidavit" or any other "handshake" deal?

MRJ


MRJ- Kind of sounds like what the majority of the producers in this state are already doing-- but they go another step and also have a hot brand on the calves and the cows to show permanent ID and an inspection and inspection papers by a state official ( brand inspector) showing that ownership and any movements or transfers taking place... These state documents accompany the calf to the new owner....Not hard at all....


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But it all comes down to a written signature and if it won't float for M' Cool it sure won't pass for V'Cool.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally, i've thought for a few years now that simply making the whole country brand-inspected would be the cheapest, easiest solution to the id problem. those electronic ear tags aren't all they're advertised to be, and you can't lose a brand. plus, generate some jobs for cash-flow....

BTW, rancher--you get ANYthing out of this storm that came thru??


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a skiff of snow and wind. Sounds like they didn't know what they were talking about again.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we got lucky in a way--north/east of us got 12-18", but we could sure use the moisture. not as bad as you all; we had agreat summer last year, i think we got 4 cuttings on the alfalfa around here. oops-forget i said anything, you'll just get mad at me... Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: BRANDS and BOLUSES Reply with quote

I think ScoringSystem has the answer as they use brands and Boluses,You can't lose them and they are permanet for the animals life time .No one's going to cut out a Bolus .


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