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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: North American Union or Facist State? Reply with quote
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"To Achieve World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism their loyalty to family traditions and national identification"
Brock Chisholm,
Director, World Health Organization

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"The nation state is a relic of the past...what I'm trying to do is promote a process of reorganization of the world."
Bill Clinton


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kent_wel_070110_laboratory_of_nation.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Union or Facist State? Reply with quote
Oldtimer wrote:
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"To Achieve World Government it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism their loyalty to family traditions and national identification"
Brock Chisholm,
Director, World Health Organization

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"The nation state is a relic of the past...what I'm trying to do is promote a process of reorganization of the world."
Bill Clinton


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_kent_wel_070110_laboratory_of_nation.htm
To both of them I would say GOOD LUCK Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Haven't you noticed some folks talking about the "North American" beef industry? They've taken the first bite.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: In That Case Reply with quote
I'd like commend R=Calf and my fellow ranchers and livestock producers for competively fighting for the ideals and rights of the livestock producers of the USA. No other industry has fought as hard to preserve the individualism of our own nation. Indeed most all of the other industry has enriched their ceo's and stockholders by firing Americans and buying into the cheaper import business. The ocean is full of foreign interests anchored off shore and flooding our country with cheap inferior quality products marketed through our greedy corporate web. And we can't even label our product in order that they can deliberately blend it in with that cheap stuff and market it as our own. I'm damn glad R-calf is bitching about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The ocean is full of foreign interests anchored off shore and flooding our country with cheap inferior quality products marketed through our greedy corporate web.


What part do the couple hundred million US consumers who seem quite happy to buy this product play in all of this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Bill Reply with quote
Those millions of people are the innocent little lambs that are inadvertanly driving the USA to economic destruction. No matter what all the economkic gerues say our economy can't survive the twin deficits. Every country in the world will sell to us, but nobody will buy from us. The cattle industry is a prime example of that. I'm not blaming the Canadians or Mexicans because they are better than the others. But look in order to keep going under these circumstances our govt. has to print money like mad and keep inflation going. This is a recepie for disaster.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Bill Reply with quote
If our system fails what happens next? Communism? Fascism? We already have an uncontrolable number of immigrants moving into the country and living off our government, so the next step seems to me like let the government control everything and every one. Is this the good old USA we have built and love?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is it not just a wee bit hypocritical that it is alright for American multi-nationals to go out and conquer the world such as Wal-Mart, McDonalds, KFC, ESSO, Ford, GE, Exxon, GM, Pepsico, Nestle, Phillips but totally unacceptable for companies from other countries to sell into the US?

Maybe we should stop ALL TRADE and international commerce. Good luck in that, especially convincing the few hundred million Americans that they should pay more for their goods!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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New World Order, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, North American Union, ETC. Just search the internet.

http://www.freedomdomain.com/nwoquote.htm
http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=91539

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"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long
dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long." -- President George Bush (January 1991)


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"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." David Rockefeller


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"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of freedom to Americans..." "And so alot of people say there's
too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the Housing Projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make the people feel safer in their communities"--President Bill Clinton 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"


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"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a rilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991


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"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this
chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order." -- Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the
United Nations, October 1975)



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"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991


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"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order." Henry Kissinger when campaigning for the passage of NAFTA.


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"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992


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"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future." U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies


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quote David Rockefeller from the second article: "For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Bill Reply with quote
cedardell wrote:
If our system fails what happens next? Communism? Fascism? We already have an uncontrolable number of immigrants moving into the country and living off our government, so the next step seems to me like let the government control everything and every one. Is this the good old USA we have built and love?


another the SKY IS FALLING R-Calfer what a surprise Rolling Eyes cedardell, Now that you have had your little rant about immigrants and chest pounding episode of what you have built. Can you answer some questions.

1 What color is your skin?
2. Were you forefather the ones that met the ships that landed in 1492?
3. Did you drop out of school before the age they would have taught American History?

Now if your skin is not red and your forefather didn't meet those ships. You being an American sir was a result of your IMMIGRANT FOREFATHERS moving to North American with all those other immigrants that have made the Good Old USA into what you so proudly brag you made.

If you had stayed in school you would have learned that the US was built on the adventurous nature of many immigrants and their MONEY. The ships that started landing on the coast of North America way back when, that were not loaded with adventurous immigrants, were loaded with supplies from the old country that were needed to turn the Good Old USA into what it is today. And on those ships returning to the old country were things that were made in the good old US that others would take in trade for more of the supplies that your immigrant forefathers needed to turn the good old USA into what you love. So see global trade and the hard work and detemination of adventurous immigrants is what turn the good old USA into the country it is today. You and your protectionist ways is what will detemine what the Good Old USA will be in the future. Please for the sake of your hard working forefather don't mess up all their hard work by thinking you can go it alone as to succeed you have learn to deal in the global market now more than your forefathers did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tam, "If you had stayed in school you would have learned that the US was built on the adventurous nature of many immigrants and their MONEY."

Actually, the reason most immigrants came here is because they had no money. They didn't come here because they were adventerous, they immigrated because they didn't have a pot to pee in back in Europe.

They were welcomed here (unless you were Irish or Chinese) because we had a nation to build - lots of land to fill. Well, we've built it now and all the homestead land is gone. I think we can hang out a sign now that says, "Positon filled".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Tam, "If you had stayed in school you would have learned that the US was built on the adventurous nature of many immigrants and their MONEY."


This coming from the resident of a Province that has laws on who or who can not buy property in their "privileged" province as a protectionist restriction- and bans foreigners (US residents) from buying land even tho it adjoins their US land (another cheap land Canuck subsidy)... Rolling Eyes If you hadn't married it- you wouldn't even be allowed to buy or own it.....

SHHHEEEESH-- What a hypocrite Wink Laughing Laughing
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