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feeder
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Stats Canada Reply with quote

Read on Agriculture Online that stats Canada as of Jan. 1 stated cattle and calf inventory is at near record high. If so, where were all the cattle when NCBA was in Canada. Canadian ranchers and NBCA say the numbers are down. What is the truth??


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody said numbers are down; just said usda overstimated numbers because they didn't take into account increased slaughter capacity.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Stats Canada Reply with quote

feeder wrote:
If so, where were all the cattle when NCBA was in Canada. Canadian ranchers and NBCA say the numbers are down. What is the truth??



You can't count many cows on a 3 day barstool trip


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who believes anything that Stats Canada says is full to his eyeballs in something brown too....... I don't answer any questions truthfully, if at all to those cowboys. Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotsa Americans don't know cattle come in any color besides black so lots of 'em didn't get counted probably thought they was biiiiiigggg wolves.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Stats Canada Reply with quote

feeder"Read on Agriculture Online that stats Canada as of Jan. 1 stated cattle and calf inventory is at near record high. If so, where were all the cattle when NCBA was in Canada. Canadian ranchers and NBCA say the numbers are down. What is the truth?

The groups are refering to different classes of cattle. The feedlots are definately not full. Packers are down to 3 day weeks because of a lack of fats ready to slaughter.

However, ranches and farms have excess inventory, some calves held back waiting for prices to improve, some just timing the flow better. The real increase in numbers is old cows most places are over stocked some guys have a number of drys just eating away at their resources.

Lots of producers never preg checked last fall, they left the bulls in longer than normal and will calve into June or even later.

This year with the $200 set aside program designed to delay placing cattle in feedlots, lots of heifers were tagged with the hope that markets for the old cows might open up and there would be some demand for bred heifers.


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