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Sandhusker
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| Terry, I'm not going to read all that. Surely you can pick a few comparisons to compare the two countries?
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rkaiser
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Pick a few comparisons Sandhusker? Is that the cherry picking that Rcalfer's like yourself like to do to advance your protectionist chickenshit agenda? Why do you need to make these comparisons Sandhusker. Canada and the USA have BSE --- PERIOD. Cherry picking the science to suit your needs makes Rcalf the laughing stock that it has become. There are issues that you and the RGang could tackle that could make some sense, but making comparisons and cherry picking science make your whole organisation a Joke. You want to talk about foes - you are the ones making foes for crying out loud.
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Sandhusker
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| Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Pick a few comparisons Sandhusker? Is that the cherry picking that Rcalfer's like yourself like to do to advance your protectionist chickenshit agenda? Why do you need to make these comparisons Sandhusker. Canada and the USA have BSE --- PERIOD. Cherry picking the science to suit your needs makes Rcalf the laughing stock that it has become. There are issues that you and the RGang could tackle that could make some sense, but making comparisons and cherry picking science make your whole organisation a Joke. You want to talk about foes - you are the ones making foes for crying out loud. |
Terry said the science didn't support Canada having a bigger BSE problem than the US. Comparisons between the countries would be a good way to illustrate that.
R-CALF is the laughing stock, but the Secretary of the USDA ASKS to come to our convention.... yeah, that makes sense.
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Bill
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Hanta Yo
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Sandhusker
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| R-CALF is the laughing stock, but the Secretary of the USDA ASKS to come to our convention.... yeah, that makes sense. |
It DOES make sense, USDA wanting to calm everyone down. Quit looking down your nose, there are other groups they talk to whether they have to ask or are invited. Apparently you R-Calfers never invited USDA. It is their duty to inform (whether you believe it or not)
Thanks, flounder, I've copied what you posted and put in Word so I can read carefully what you posted. Looks to me some damning information to (we know who they are). |
Maybe they'll inform us how a feed ban can be effective when positives show up years after it is declared "effective"
Maybe they'll inform us what "low" means.
Maybe they'll tell us what the difference was between BSE case #23 and the previous 22 was that necessitated a change of policy.
Maybe they'll tell us why they want to expand trade with a country that doesn't even fit into the "minimal risk" category that they invented for that country.
Maybe they'll tell us why private BSE testing isn't sound science, but hormone free is.
Maybe they'll tell us why they tell the world trade has to be based on a 30 month age cutoff, but then negotiate a 20 month deal with Japan.
There's a lot of things they need to tell us, Hanta.
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Sandhusker
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Bill
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Bill
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| You've been on this forum for how long now and you ask who R-CALF's foes are? |
Who indeed are the foes of the exhaulted R-Klan leadership Sandhusker? Who do you see lurking in the shadows this week? 
At least Oldtimer tried to come up with an answer as feeble as it was!  |
Feeble answer for a feeble question asked by a feeble mind. OT did a good job. |
Speaking of feeble minds Sandhusker, you still can't come up with an answer? I suppose you are a bit shell shocked as only a feeble mind would keep chirping after his org. was shown to be the ultimate fools they are by flounder, and to think they were stupid enough to put in print?
What an embarrassment that must be!
Pass me the shovel before that hole your digging in gets any deeper. |
Why don't you cut and past the data that flounder posted that showed R-CALF to be fools? You didn't even read a damn thing he posted and you're flapping your lips on it. |
Sorry I had to leave last night Sandhusker. It looks like it must have been a sleepless night for you knowing how foolish you and your fellow Klan members appear. You guys sure had some balls though in asking flounder to supply years of research and then dump him when he does the proper thing and refused to focus solely on Canada.
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| your welcome there big muddy. don't think for one minute i am singling Canada out as being worse off than the USA in Terms of TSEs. I just think that any country in the shape of Canada or USA should adhere to the BSE GBR risk assessments and old trade protocols (which i said years ago should be changed to include all TSE in all species), as opposed to GWs and the OIEs BSE MRR policy, which allows all strains of TSE to be traded legally, and globally$ there is absolutely nothing that is science-based about that damn BSE MRR policy. This is what sank my battleship in regards to testifying for r-calf. they actually appoached me about it, but i told them i would be glad to testify, but i was not stopping at the Canadian border, my testimony was to come south as well if given the opportunity. and that ended that, but i did supply them with a load of data, for whatever that was worth. this BSE MRR policy set the erradication of BSE globally back to where it started, square one $$$ this BSE MRR policy should be repealed and the BSE GBR risk assessments strengthened to include ALL TSE in ALL SPECIES. ...TSS |
Read it for yourself Sandhusker you have the weekend off from your real job.
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Big Muddy rancher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| R-CALF is the laughing stock, but the Secretary of the USDA ASKS to come to our convention.... yeah, that makes sense. |
It DOES make sense, USDA wanting to calm everyone down. Quit looking down your nose, there are other groups they talk to whether they have to ask or are invited. Apparently you R-Calfers never invited USDA. It is their duty to inform (whether you believe it or not)
Thanks, flounder, I've copied what you posted and put in Word so I can read carefully what you posted. Looks to me some damning information to (we know who they are). |
Maybe they'll inform us how a feed ban can be effective when positives show up years after it is declared "effective"
Maybe they'll inform us what "low" means.
Maybe they'll tell us what the difference was between BSE case #23 and the previous 22 was that necessitated a change of policy.
Maybe they'll tell us why they want to expand trade with a country that doesn't even fit into the "minimal risk" category that they invented for that country.
Maybe they'll tell us why private BSE testing isn't sound science, but hormone free is.
Maybe they'll tell us why they tell the world trade has to be based on a 30 month age cutoff, but then negotiate a 20 month deal with Japan.
There's a lot of things they need to tell us, Hanta. |
To bad your not going to the convention. You might have come back informed. 
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It sure sounds like you're planning on reading it with a non-biased view.