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Ben H
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:50 pm    Post subject: Is Farmland The Next Asset to Collpase? Reply with quote

I could have probably put this under Political, maybe, but I think it's appropriate here. This comes from Allan's Blog
http://www.wincustomersusa.com/stockman/
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Is Farmland The Next Asset to Collpase?
Monday, 13 October 2008
Will farmland be the next asset to dramatically fall in price? Cash corn prices in the Midwest are now down to $3.50 a bushel and soybeans are at $8.00. At these prices, it takes at or near 100 bushels of corn just to pay the cash rent on top quality Iowa farmland. This means renters are in a real financial wreck considering the high price of other production inputs. In Argentina where farmers are currently facing these new low prices at planting, we have seen farmers abandon cash farmland leases and pull back into their deeded acreage. So far, farmland prices there have not fallen there but leases are going begging. I suspect we could see the same thing happen in the Midwest this spring. Farmland has already seen one price prop, exurbanization, removed. A dramatic drop in cash rents would set farmland up for severe price declines in 2010 and 2011 as investors exit. Unfortunately, due to the current banking crisis the exit window for cashing in on the recent price runup may have already closed.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That maybe what's needed to get land prices in line with productivity. Confused


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, good news for me as I start to try and put together some dirt.


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Carnes Lake Cattle Co
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnes Lake Cattle Co wrote:
I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnes Lake Cattle Co wrote:
I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.
For 150,000 a yr you could rent our pastureland,it will easily hold 100 head....great deal I'd snap it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fast like TODAY!!!! Smile



BMR....I totally agree with your statement:
That maybe what's needed to get land prices in line with productivity.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Muddy rancher wrote:
Carnes Lake Cattle Co wrote:
I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.



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Helloooooo! they're from GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wink Wink Wink Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yanuck wrote:
Big Muddy rancher wrote:
Carnes Lake Cattle Co wrote:
I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.



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What are some people thinking. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


Helloooooo! they're from GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wink Wink Wink Wink





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrs.Greg wrote:
Carnes Lake Cattle Co wrote:
I just came home from looking at a place for lease down the highway from me. The gentleman offered me to lease it for 250,000 per year or I could buy it for 22.5 million dollars. We might could put 90-100 cows on it after we fenced and replanted the place at our expense. As was said untill land prices and lease fee's come down, I can see alot of leases being turned in.
For 150,000 a yr you could rent our pastureland,it will easily hold 100 head....great deal I'd snap it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fast like TODAY!!!! Smile



BMR....I totally agree with your statement:
That maybe what's needed to get land prices in line with productivity.



Depends on the acreage but land prices in GA , most of you would not believe it if I told you.

The funny thing is that most of it in my area DOES have gold under it!!! Wink


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in NW Iowa land was selling for $10,000/acre a month ago. Now there have been land auctions in the area that are getting 5000/acre for top bid and they are being no saled.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is meant by land being priced to it's productivity?

I've heard this mentioned before as to what ag land used to be worth before all the folks from the cities started driving up prices.

TIA

bart.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With that offer me and my wife were thinking of selling our place. we could buy a house in town and live pretty well.


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