IM Wormer for Horses?

[JBacon]

Thanks for all your info. I decided against the shot. I rotate wormers and my horse is an easy keeper. We live in the cold, so that cuts down on worms too. This site is great and I appreciate the advice. Thanks again,
Jan

[Faster horses]

I received another e-mail regarding my inquiry about Quest dewormer. I knew I had heard something about it causing some real problems in the past, but could't remember WHAT or WHY.
Here is what I received, FWIW:

"A word of warning on the Quest thing.

Don't use it for a heavily infested horse, or for a first time on a colt.
It's actually too effective for some animals. It will kill "encysted" worms
that are still in the wall of the gut, and that other wormers don't touch.
This can cause them to release toxins as they die that can make the horse
very ill. A friend of mine lost a horse like this. Shortly after worming,
the horse developed a horrific case of diarhea and they could not save it,
even though they did everything they could.

On horses that are regularly wormed, and don't carry too heavy a parasite
load, it's a great product. I'd choose carefully which horses to use it on
thought."

[Flossie]

Little help-please?

I use the Safeguard Liquid Cattle Wormer on my goats and was told that we could also use it for power packing the horses. I bought a 1000ml bottle for the horses and the seller told me to use 52ml per day for 5 days. (i think-i may have written down wrong) The bottle says to use 23ml per 1000#'s so I am guessing that we are doing a little more than 2x that amount because it is a power pack?
Does anyone know if this is correct? Thank You!

[VB RANCH]

i use ivovec injectable to worm horses, 10 or 12cc's right down there throat, think its got the same dope in it as some paste wormers, never killed one never will

[Silver]

[gcreekrch]

The old-timers here used to feed a teaspoon of sulpher in their using horses every day until you could run your hand down their back and it would come away yellow. The horses looked good after a worming.

[Faster horses]

Flossie, you are right on--Power Pack is twice as much for 5 days. It's quite a lot to give at one time, so you
might want to give it morning and night. Make sure they get it all...doesn't matter what you use, if you don't get it in 'em, they don't get wormed.
You might want to give them part, make sure they got it down and give them the rest and not give it all at once.

Ivomec wormers do NOT get the worms that fenebenzole does.
The only thing fenebenzole (Safe-guard or Panacur) does not get
is bots. So you need to use an Ivomectrin product for bots.
In our area we give Ivomec after a freeze.

It's best to rotate wormers, but be sure you have fenebenzole as part of that rotation. Our friend in Texas has to worm his horses every 6 weeks, so he rotates a lot, but his best wormer is fenebenzole. And with the Power Pack you will really clean up the worms in your horses.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes. Hope this helps!

[VB RANCH]

[Flossie]

[Faster horses]

You are welcome.
And it's called Safeguard for a reason...

[Kato]

It's about the safest one on the market. As for Ivomec, it doesn't really matter how you get it into them, whether injected or oral, it will work the same.

I have a friend who lost a horse from a Quest worming. She had always been wormed regularly all her life, but she was one of those horses who was always picking away at the ground around the feeders, and probably carried a much higher than normal parasite load. The horse pretty much scoured to death, and they couldn't stop it. It was a big Belgian too, and within days she had lost hundreds of pounds. It was not pretty. And my friend was devastated.

[Faster horses]

Oh, Kato, I'm sorry to hear about that.
Horses cannot stand to have diarrhea very long before it kills them.