Border collie info update

[hillsdown]

[Oldtimer]

Well Hillsdown-- we have raised working cattle dogs since back in the 1940's- both border collies and blue/red healers for awhile-- some of which had the first bloodlines in this country--- BUT found - just like cattle- all the paperwork- and promotion , emotion and commotion means little if they won't do the job..

I have raised registered Border Collies- but found out the best dogs come from not from how fancy their papers were- but how their parents- and siblings actually perform- with real cattle in a real cattle situation (not out chasing "gooses" or "goats".....

My old 9 year old male still works his rear off- and puts more bite in his pups than most can believe-- and has pups sired by him are on places from Iowa to Washington...I lost my old female (who was mother of over 100 pups) about two years ago-- and have a red border collie replacement out of the Rockglen area (from working parents) that is showing tremendous cow (which means then the biggest part of it is now just spending time to get them to understand what you want them to do...) Her first litter already shows they have knowledge.....

But 90% of making a good cattle dog- IF they have the bred in "cow" is not how fancy their papers/pedigrees- or how much they cost- but how much time you want to spend working with them-- and especially not over hurrying them....And those with proven parents just take that much less time to work with....

[MO STOCKER]

Peter Gonnets Moss is a very good dog and is a good breeder. I have a granddaughter of Moss here now. Nice 2 yr old bitch. Plenty of power along with fineness . Van De Zweeps Glen will not be hard to find out about. I think Glen might have come from the UK. Go to the ISDS web site and look at the world trial section. PM me if you would like.

[Big Muddy rancher]

I have a grand son of Moss and he is a great pet but he quits at times and is not real aggressive.

[Oldtimer]

My old male-- Spuds Jud #152805 (named after a knarly old Missouri River cowboy- Jud Twitchell) is sired by Lonerider Spud- out of Rebel Rose- both of which were raised by Terry and Cathy Kombol out of Roundup Mt....Both he and my old female traced back several times to Hanging Tree bloodlines- which I've attributed to the bite they have- which many of the yearling folks really liked.....

[hillsdown]

Thanks everyone very much.. I will keep you all updated as we get closer to our new addition ..

[kelpies4me]

Just wanted to echo the "see the parents work" response. It is so important to see the parents work, and possibly other pups from the same cross (older). The best pedigree doesn't mean a lot when your dog is staring down the flaring nostrils coming at high speed to plow them over. These days with youtube, it's very easy to see them work.

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[Big Muddy rancher]